Announcement

**bart** · 11-13-2005, 10:46 PM

Re: TDi general questions

howdy,

you can turn the EGR down with vagcom, thats what i did when i got the car. also keeping it in the low rpm range all the time doesn't help, rev it lots!!! i will be getting a bigger intake manifold and plan to keep the egr.

european diesel officially can't exceed 10ppm, ours "low-sulfur" is 500ppm. i dont think its bad for your engine, just bad for the environment. yes less sulfur means less lube, so buy fuel additives, i get the grey powerservice bottle from the esso truck stop by road king off deerfoot, it boosts cetane too 6 points.

no problems in a garage, sometimes they start up smokey, and if your house is attached to your garage, the exhaust can easily get inside your house. i dont mind it, other people do lol.

no rear sway bar.

oh and tdi's are slow.

-bart

**stefan** · 11-13-2005, 11:11 PM

Re: TDi general questions

next to barts, i guess most canadian tdi's are slow, but i'm pretty happy with mine.

i did the egr mod AFTER geting the majority of my intake scrubbed and acid bathed, and turbo replaced (dont know if the turbo going was related) $$$. So ya, adjust that.
Smell is something to get used to i guess, but my family runs a construction buisness, so it just reminds me of home

I really like mine. I had the egr adjusted, and an upsolute chip added. My suspension is getting weak, so I am going to put in GLI suspension to try something new. I put over 50K km on it last year; can't beat the milage.

**Red90** · 11-14-2005, 11:28 AM

Re: TDi general questions

Originally posted by JeffC

Sulphur - I've heard that low S lowers lubricity. Europe runs 5ppm, Canada will be at 15ppm by Oct 06. It is a German car, after all, I would think it can stand up to N. American standards...

The reduction in lubricity come from the process used to remove the sulfur (hydrotreating). The hydrotreating removes other thing which reduces lubricity. The refiners add lubricity additives back into the fuel to meet regulations. The newer fuel will be much better for your engine. Much less smoke and EGR fouling will most likely be a thing of the past.

Originally posted by JeffC

Any problems with fuel smell, or exhaust sooting up in a garage? ( I will not normally be running it in there, just getting in/out, parked head-in ).

Yes, there is some smell.

Originally posted by JeffC

The back end rolled quite a bit in the curves. Does the thing have a roll bar ( dealer says no, vw.ca says yes ) and if not, can one be fitted or has someone another solution?

The stock shocks are the most underdamped POS items in the world. Do yourself a favour and plan for aftermarket shocks as soon as possible.

**zero10** · 11-14-2005, 11:34 AM

Re: TDi general questions

It's too bad you can't do the EGR mod on the new engines (the pump-duse ones). My trip is usually 10km all city in the morning, 50-75km all city without shutting the engine off mid-afternoon, and 20-25km all city in the evening. I'm at 4200km right now, no signs at all of carboning, but I think it's a little bit early. It is rumored that the PD engine management has been adjusted (EGR redesign, etc) such that the intake fouling up is no longer supposed to happen. It's too early to tell for certain, but I've heard of 2 intakes being taken off, one at 93k miles, and I forget the mileage on the other one, and there was no more than a light oily/sooty coating on the inside. A far cry from the previous VE TDI engines. Anyhoo, I don't anticipate any carboning/fouling problems, and since most of your commute is on deerfoot, I think you're better off than I am.

My Golf came with front and rear sway (anti-roll) bars, but I have no idea if the jetta does.
Honestly, they aren't slow. They're 100hp, but 170ish lb/ft of torque. I went from driving a porsche 951 to my 05 golf gls tdi automatic as my winter car, and it's almost fast enough to keep me happy. I'm thinking of doing a little tuning to it after all the snow melts. I got mine with ESP, and it was definately a good choice. First icy day of the season, and I was laughing at everybody spinning their wheels at lights. I really like the traction control, but the stability program can be a little discomforting if you get into a light slide and have the wheel turned.

Don't worry about the low sulphur fuels. Our engines will deal with the lowered lubricity, and our emissions systems are capable of handling the 500ppm sulphur that we have right now.

I hardly ever notice the diesel smell, and I must be dain bramaged, because I like that smell (Well, I did grow up near trucks, and my dad was a trucker...). Anyhoo, my G/F hates it, and she has yet to complain.

One thing you will want to get is a TDIHeater (www.frostheaters.com), I just ordered mine, and if you ask me, you should if you get one. Don't let the dealership install the Calix heater, it's a piece of trash... (See my other thread).

Best of luck, and I hope you get a TDI

**JeffC** · 11-14-2005, 11:06 PM

Re: TDi general questions

Thanks all for the responses, it helps a lot before dropping a bucket of money.

Clarification on the smell issue... is it diesel fuel smell or oily exhaust pipe smell? My garage is attached and I have kids. I will take steps to minimise running it in the garage, my concern is only with parking.

Outside of that, I think I'll take my chances with coking as #1 ULSD fuel will likely help and if I get dinged a cleaning cost ( BTW Northland VW told me VW will do ONE cleaning under warranty ) then I'll look into a hack.

I've driven one, it's the best bit of fun you can have for the economy.

THanks again. Jeff C.

**Stonewall** · 11-15-2005, 12:24 AM

Re: TDi general questions

Originally posted by JeffC

Clarification on the smell issue... is it diesel fuel smell or oily exhaust pipe smell? My garage is attached and I have kids. I will take steps to minimise running it in the garage, my concern is only with parking.

Open the garage door before you start and close it after you turn the car off and you will have no problems. It is not a bad smell or alot of smoke (unless your engine is really really cold).

**R_Ethug** · 11-15-2005, 08:04 AM

Re: TDi general questions

even with my gas car i open the door before i start the car so any fumes leave then pull out and let the idle drop outside the garage then drive away and shut the door.. works for me

**Vulcan** · 11-15-2005, 02:39 PM

Re: TDi general questions

Hum...JeffC and you live in Calgary and fight the Deerfoot each day....Sounds like me! I test drove a normal 2004 TDI Jetta and then my 2004 Canadian Sport.....The Sport is a lot firmer than the normal. I think that the main differance is stiffer shocks. I really like the feeling and the road handling with the sport. I don't believe they offer it for 2005 but I would agree with the earlier post of investing in some quality aftermarket shocks. As for carboning up....I have 37K km on mine and it still has all the snap it always did.

**Kor** · 11-15-2005, 03:40 PM

Re: TDi general questions

The back end rolled quite a bit in the curves. Does the thing have a roll bar ( dealer says no, vw.ca says yes ) and if not, can one be fitted or has someone another solution?

One of the most popular Mk4 VW mods is to have a "rear anti-sway bar" also known as "rear sway-bar" installed. It will run a couple hundred but the back end will stiffen up. Watch out though as this increases oversteer / reduces understeer. The car understeers quite a lot from the factory (most FWD cars do) but you should be aware.

B5 · 11-15-2005, 05:39 PM

Re: TDi general questions

Hehe..I think the word of wisdom for handling is follow:

Understeer is when your front wheel hit the curb.
Oversteer is when your rear wheel hit the curb.

**zero10** · 11-16-2005, 09:19 AM

Re: TDi general questions

Oversteer scares the passenger,
Understeer scares the driver

Sorry, had to throw that one in there too.
On a side note, I thought all of the new VW's came with rear sway bars? I was told my 05 golf did... To be honest, I've never pushed it hard enough to really tell yet.

**Kor** · 11-16-2005, 10:35 AM

Re: TDi general questions

Originally posted by zero10

Oversteer scares the passenger,
Understeer scares the driver

Sorry, had to throw that one in there too.
On a side note, I thought all of the new VW's came with rear sway bars? I was told my 05 golf did... To be honest, I've never pushed it hard enough to really tell yet.

Not as far as I know they don't... car companies LIKE massive understeer.

**zero10** · 11-16-2005, 10:59 AM

Re: TDi general questions

According to VW.ca and my salesperson, the golf comes with an 18mm rear sway bar.

I guess it's time to crawl under there and check. Maybe it's one of those things that just isn't really there (like the rear seat heater vents...)

**stefan** · 11-16-2005, 11:02 AM

Re: TDi general questions

Originally posted by zero10

According to VW.ca and my salesperson, the golf comes with an 18mm rear sway bar.

I guess it's time to crawl under there and check. Maybe it's one of those things that just isn't really there (like the rear seat heater vents...)

my jetter has the rear vents.. dont think they do too much, but if you crank the fan to high of foot heat, you can feel your way to them.

Announcement

TDi general questions

TDi general questions

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment