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just sayin is the added cost of the tdi offset buy the monster repair (if needed) and lack of excellent cold weather performance. (heat in car the humans) and overall power ,
it works out to about 250 year in fuel savings . to the average driver . if no added maintenance cost are taking into account .
My fuel costs were almost double driving my gti and I have just as much fun driving my jetta. Emissions now is completely killing diesels though so I would buy a new 2.0t over a tdi. I'm a huge diesel guy but the advantages of diesel are leaving with gas fuel economy increasing and diesels being choked to death so Ill keep my alh until I get tired of it.
Ps if your buying Or own a diesel because you think it is fast then you have it for the wrong reasons.
Well...I did'nt buy my TDI because it was fast...where I live, everywhere is a road trip...so I bought it for the fuel economy...but decided to upgrade parts that went POOF...just happened to be the turbo...so I put the biggest one on it that would be ok for the internals...now its more fun!
[QUOTE=turbomeyers;286066]lol you guys ........lets just find out what we can buy for $3000....... lets start with franken turbo . $1299........ and $240 injectors, Tune $650. and an exhaust ......should be arround 3 k .
you seem to forget that with such low rpms, The AREA OF USEFUL POWER UNDER THE LINE IN THE DYNO IS TINY = no
the 1.8t is a performance engine, the tdi is an economical engine, i have built a 200 whp, 450 wtq. alh, and it is at over 10k in the build, 10k into a 1.8t is a gdam monster and would curb stomp the biggest tdi car out there .I promise mod for mod stock to stock the only thing a tdi can do better is avoid this
So you're saying that your $3000 upgraded 1.8t could outpull my $3000 upgraded tdi through the mountains? Not a chance. Perhaps the $10000 1.8t will outpull it, but its got over 3x the money sunk into it. You sunk over $10000 into an ALH and only got 200hp and 450 wheel torque out of it? I'm not saying you don't know what you're doing, but I know of a ton of guys in the states that are putting out 300-350 hp and 500-550 wheel torque with $10000 into it. What type of mileage are you getting once you add the $3000 worth of mods to the 1.8t because my mileage goes up when I add my mods. I'm going to take a guess that your mileage will go down, rather significantly. And the low RPM's actually work great in the mountains Chris because if I'm cruising at 120-125 I'm at around 2100-2200 RPM and thats right at my Torque peak and I will have boost right away.
Anyways, this thread has been hijacked and I apologize to the OP about going off topic. My overall point was the fact that driving a modded TDI I not only get better mileage, but have an unreal amount of torque at my disposal any time I want it. Making it the best of both worlds.
My diesel gets about 700-750 city km's and I've squeaked just over 1000km's out of it highway driving and thats on a tank that is roughly 63litres to fill from dry... It has plenty of power and keeps a smile on my face!
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