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    Auto or Manual TDI

    Hello,

    I'm relatively new to this site but I'm hoping to get a Jetta TDI in the near future and I wanted to get some opinions from everyone on the transmission.

    Fuel economy is one of my big concerns but the person that will be sharing the vehicle with me is reluctant to drive a manual and ultimately probably won't. While this may sound good to some that I won't have to share, the point of getting the vehicle is so that both of us will drive it.

    I've been looking at some numbers from the Fuel Consumption guide at the Natural Resources Canada’s Office of Energy Efficiency (http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...ide.cfm?attr=8) and it's pretty convincing for an '03 Jetta TDI that the manual is the way to go. In the City your looking at ~800km for the auto and ~1000 for the stick (assuming 55 litre tank and I realize these numbers may or may not be actual ranges people are getting). ~200 km seems like whole lot to me. Mind you going from car that gets ~450 km to a tank, ~800 is a pretty sweet bump to.

    I'm thinking that the auto is probably what the purchase will be but I'm trying to justify it to myself. Any opinions? Any thoughts on benefits of an auto over a manual, mileage aside?

    TIA.
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  • #2
    Re: Auto or Manual TDI

    Originally posted by ashok77
    Fuel economy is one of my big concerns but the person that will be sharing the vehicle with me is reluctant to drive a manual and ultimately probably won't.
    My wife hated driving stick at first too, but I was a bastered about wanting two cars with the same parts (to ease repairs for me) but now she loves driving standard and has no problems at all.
    Name: Brent
    His: '04 TDI Golf Mods: None If it's smoken it ain't broken
    Family: '15 Jetta Sportwagon
    Fun car: '92 Blue Karmann Crabby Cabby Mods: Coils, front and rear swaybars, LED interior lights and some other old things.

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    • #3
      Re: Auto or Manual TDI

      Also factor in the cost of the auto/tip, and the extra cost of repairs if something goes wrong. Plus the powertrain loss. There's a reason Europe is 95% manual. And those women/men who didn't think they could learn manual are just fine. My wife wanted an auto but I refused and now she drives manual - and wouldn't buy another automatic even if it was free.

      Khyron
      Geoff
      Fear is the element that unites all losers.

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      • #4
        Re: Auto or Manual TDI

        I really don’t mind to get a free SL AMG here. Just tell me where to get one. I will paypal you $ for the info.



        Isn’t that all you care is the fuel economy? Stick of course for you but not for your partner. The only solution is the tiptronic tranny.

        Auto isn’t all that bad either. Can you get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo with standard? Can you get a MB SL65 AMG with standard? If automatics are bad then why do the companies put one into their top of the line models? Funny hay.

        Here is my horror story with my 00 auto http://216.234.165.103/forums/showthread.php?t=4652
        (Warning! graphic pics.).

        VW refused to do even ONE thing to help. The ironic part is most member(s) here thinks I only post negative comments. Well, never mind, they don’t own that car or share the same mods. Their ego served them really well.

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        • #5
          Re: Auto or Manual TDI

          Honestly I think that a manual transmission is not that big a deal after you've driven it for a while. The TDI has one of the friendliest manual transmissions I have driven, its very easy to shift. Moreover, the TDI feels much peppier with the manual.

          That being said, if I had kids packed into my car or something, I would want an automatic (I would also want a bigger car than a Jetta).
          KR
          Porsche 991 Carrera S

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          • #6
            Re: Auto or Manual TDI

            I do have a kid in the back and a manual and they're both great. Loads of room in the jetta, and the manual is so friendly in traffic I just leave in in first with my foor off the gas and idle forward as everyone else rides the brake.

            Manual also has way more pep/fun factor!
            The world has but three sports, Bullfighting, Mountain Climbing, and Motor Racing. All the rest are merely games - Ernest Hemingway.

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            • #7
              Re: Auto or Manual TDI

              There's been some good comments here so all I will add is, go test drive both (if you haven't already). I've driven a few cars now in manual and automatic back to back. The thing I don't like is how some auto cars react to turbocharged motors. It can be a bit annoying.
              Jay

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              • #8
                Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                From someone who did give you a suggestion.. have you tried the head bolts yet?

                Originally posted by B5
                I really don’t mind to get a free SL AMG here. Just tell me where to get one. I will paypal you $ for the info.



                Isn’t that all you care is the fuel economy? Stick of course for you but not for your partner. The only solution is the tiptronic tranny.

                Auto isn’t all that bad either. Can you get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo with standard? Can you get a MB SL65 AMG with standard? If automatics are bad then why do the companies put one into their top of the line models? Funny hay.

                Here is my horror story with my 00 auto http://216.234.165.103/forums/showthread.php?t=4652
                (Warning! graphic pics.).

                VW refused to do even ONE thing to help. The ironic part is most member(s) here thinks I only post negative comments. Well, never mind, they don’t own that car or share the same mods. Their ego served them really well.
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                • #9
                  Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                  I drive an automatic, get 850km / tank in the City and over 1000 on the highway. The new DSG transmission (MKV) is awesome. Although I like the control of a standard, the tiptronic is very responsive. Cost of $1400 for auto over the standard is not all that much considering you are spending 30K+ on a car.

                  my 2 cents.
                  Jeff
                  2006 Jetta TDI

                  "If you think you don't like change, you will like obsolesence even less."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                    Originally posted by B5
                    VW refused to do even ONE thing to help. The ironic part is most member(s) here thinks I only post negative comments. Well, never mind, they don’t own that car or share the same mods. Their ego served them really well.
                    Justify buying an auto however you want

                    The reason many of these cars are coming with autos only is the type of person to drive them (tip/dsg are borderline, but better). A Porsche Cayenne turbo is one you brought up..its an suv...mainly driven by women

                    the SL65 is paddle shift is it not? That's probably in there because a computer can shift a hell of alot faster than my hands.

                    Im not saying automatic is bad, im just saying automatics in a VW and in an SL65 are going to be day and night different
                    REAL men use harsh language as self-defense
                    -james

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                    • #11
                      Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                      The DSG is THE only good automatic. A decent CVT comes a close second.

                      I have never had an automatic that I have put more than 20k km on - I can't stand them. Let it be known also that I am THE laziest person in existance.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                        Originally posted by NeonGTI
                        The DSG is THE only good automatic. A decent CVT comes a close second.
                        What about a 6 speed sequential

                        DSG is pretty nice but i still prefer a manual.
                        Blair
                        Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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                        • #13
                          Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                          love the manual... it means my mom and girlfriend cant ask to drive my car!
                          2001.5 Audi S4

                          Originally posted by James
                          My engine may be a solid 4 liters smaller than yours, but i have a HUGE penis

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                          • #14
                            Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                            Auto sucks.

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                            2010 Audi A4 S-Line
                            2007 VW GTI 2.0T

                            Past
                            2003 VW Jetta GLI
                            1992 VW Jetta GL
                            1984 VW Rabbit GTI

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                            • #15
                              Re: Auto or Manual TDI

                              I'm a manual whore but would drop it in a second for the audi/vw DSG. But that's the only one.

                              Khyron
                              Geoff
                              Fear is the element that unites all losers.

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