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  • MAF woes...

    Well, 6 weeks ago my CEL came on. I checked block 032 and my long-term trim values were 23%. Plus, the car was idling funny, and had the odd misfire during startup.

    I cleaned my MAF, and this helped tonnes. Didn't get misfires for a month, although my long-term trim was still 17% (more than the +/- 10% spec).

    Then two weeks ago the car wouldn't even start. It bucked and surged and sputtered...so I assumed it was the MAF and I was right. I unplugged it, and it drove like a dream (although my ASR light and CEL lights were on )

    I picked up a new MAF $102 +tax! What a steal!) and stuck it in. Idle was much better, although when I punched it and got into the upper rpm's my ASR light goes on and I got the code:

    16487 - MAF Sensor (G70): Signal too High
    35-10 - - - Intermittent

    Drivability is not affected. It still pulls like a mofo up to redline.

    (From what I've read, the ASR light goes on for non-emissions related engine problems).

    I went back to my garage and got a 'loaner' MAF to see if indeed the new MAF was defective. I drove around last week with this loaner MAF, and had no problems (I was at WOT ripping up to redline on many many occasions). This somewhat proved that my "new" MAF was bung, so I returned the loaner MAF and got another brand new MAF.

    ...and of course, the first time I floor it with the new MAF (definitely not the same new one as before ) the damn ASR light comes on and I have the same fault code as above.

    Grrrr... Block 032 shows long term trim at -14%...
    1.8T
    Not quite stock anymore...

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    Re: MAF woes...

    Originally posted by Flanders
    Well, 6 weeks ago my CEL came on. I checked block 032 and my long-term trim values were 23%. Plus, the car was idling funny, and had the odd misfire during startup.

    I cleaned my MAF, and this helped tonnes. Didn't get misfires for a month, although my long-term trim was still 17% (more than the +/- 10% spec).

    Then two weeks ago the car wouldn't even start. It bucked and surged and sputtered...so I assumed it was the MAF and I was right. I unplugged it, and it drove like a dream (although my ASR light and CEL lights were on )

    I picked up a new MAF $102 +tax! What a steal!) and stuck it in. Idle was much better, although when I punched it and got into the upper rpm's my ASR light goes on and I got the code:

    16487 - MAF Sensor (G70): Signal too High
    35-10 - - - Intermittent

    Drivability is not affected. It still pulls like a mofo up to redline.

    (From what I've read, the ASR light goes on for non-emissions related engine problems).

    I went back to my garage and got a 'loaner' MAF to see if indeed the new MAF was defective. I drove around last week with this loaner MAF, and had no problems (I was at WOT ripping up to redline on many many occasions). This somewhat proved that my "new" MAF was bung, so I returned the loaner MAF and got another brand new MAF.

    ...and of course, the first time I floor it with the new MAF (definitely not the same new one as before ) the damn ASR light comes on and I have the same fault code as above.

    Grrrr... Block 032 shows long term trim at -14%...
    That's on a 1.8T, right? Which 1.8T engine do you have? $102 is a lot cheaper than when I was looking for a new MAF for my AWD.... (granted, it doesn't seem to work properly).
    Pat
    Driver Found: Camber Wanted

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    • #3
      Re: MAF woes...

      I think us awd guys can use 2.0l mafs which are cheaper.

      My asr light has been on for the last week so maybe new maf time for me as well.
      2012 gti, 2012 mustang.

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      • #4
        Re: MAF woes...

        I've been getting some of the same symptoms, but not as severe. How much do AWW MAF sensors go for?
        ___________
        Black 2001.5 Jetta WE Beast from the East
        I'd spend more time with my girlfriend, but she's only naturally aspirated.

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        • #5
          Re: MAF woes...

          AWW.

          $102, which is why I didn't mind replacing it so much
          1.8T
          Not quite stock anymore...

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          • #6
            Re: MAF woes...

            Were you running a K&N? The TDIclub.com majority swears that the K&N or any oiled filter will fry an MAF.

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            • #7
              Re: MAF woes...

              it depends on the oil.. i've cleaned my cai filter thrice now and my maf has never given me issues you just have to know how much is 'just right'

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              • #8
                Re: MAF woes...

                Originally posted by Stampfan
                Were you running a K&N? The TDIclub.com majority swears that the K&N or any oiled filter will fry an MAF.
                PiperX, but it's very lightly oiled. Didn't have a problem with the first 40000km's on it!
                1.8T
                Not quite stock anymore...

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                • #9
                  Re: MAF woes...

                  Saw a great "low tech" MAF test on TDIclub. Put it in neutral after all of your fluids are hot, ie. you've been driving for a while. Then put the pedal to the floor. Check your tac. If its running 5200 rpms or so, middle of redline you're okay. If you're under redline (mine was 4600 or something) it likely could be your MAF.

                  I just tried the test, replaced the MAF, and now I'm fine. running like a new car. I'm ditching the K&N; the MAF was fine 25,000 km ago, and now its slowly going toast since the K&N was put in right outta the box. I also found a light oil film inside the airbox after running my finger around the whole thing. At $13 a pop, I'd rather risk the stock air filter. I was a K&N denial person on TDIclub, but its a little more than coincidence that when I cleaned the MAF I'd get a little power back, and now that I'm ditched it entirely I find a light coating of oil there. I'm positive the oil fried the MAF after only a year.

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                  • #10
                    Re: MAF woes...

                    I think K&N filters can have some problem, since they are a cotton style filter... I am not sure if the foam filters like the ones made by ITG would be as bad...
                    KR
                    Porsche 991 Carrera S

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                    • #11
                      Re: MAF woes...

                      for the last time, the best filter for a tdi is the stock one!!!
                      2002 VW Golf GT TDI
                      2016 VW Passat BiTDI

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                      • #12
                        Re: MAF woes...

                        You're right Bart. And now that you can replace them for only $13 or $14 its a great bargain.

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