Quick Question

[Tuna]

I have a friend that's looking into a TDi. It's a good price and it's a 2004, but, do all 2004's have the PD engine? If they didn't is there an easy way to tell (he's mechanically inclined but not too familiar with VW's)? Thanks.

Edit: I've also been hearing that the PD isn't all it's cracked up to be, is it really a bad thing or just that it would be better to have the non PD? I know the "non" is easier to mod and what not but other than that?

Thanks

[R_Ethug]

Re: Quick Question

i'm pretty sure all 04 tdis have the new pd but i could be wrong

[Tuna]

Re: Quick Question

Anyone else? I'm interested on if there is big disadvantages to going with a PD. Bart? Simon? Brent?

[bart]

Re: Quick Question

cons:

less you can mod (because it gets really expensive if you want more than just a chip)

pros:

its really quiet, if you like that sort thing


the reason they suck here is because of the fuel, its crap, so dont blame vw for it.

[Stonewall]

Re: Quick Question

The euro spec PD is hands down the best diesel engine out there. Unfortunely the NA one gets a little less MPG but has a bit more HP. Mods are more expensive as the injectors and integrated into the engine head and hard to get at. In a couple years I am sure there will be tons of mods for the PD as they are just starting to trickel in now. Take a look on the net for modded PD150's and you will see what that engine is capable of. I would say go for it, get a chip to start and wait on the rest.

[Kor]

Re: Quick Question

99% of people seem to only get basic bolt-on mods anyhow and be very happy with them. A chip and an exhuast, along with some VAG-COM tuning and maybe an air-filter can help you maximize the PD's potential.

[Tuna]

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Thanks guys, my only concern with recomending it was just that I heard that the MPG isn't that great (was supposed to be better than the Non PD) and it didn't heat up in the winter and stuff.

[Stampfan]

Re: Quick Question

On the plus side the HP and torque numbers with JUST a chip are excellent with the PD's in comparison with the older models. I've seen online dynos putting stage 1 chipped PD's at 250+ ft/lbs torque or higher.