Not exactly a new veedub

[crazycanuck]

but I was hoping you might be able to help me. I'm going to be getting a 1992 golf soon and in the interest of speed (legal speed) I was thinking of swapping in a 1.8 turbo. I was just wondering how difficult this swap is and if you have any suggestions. Also any idea on what this would cost me would be helpful.

[Cedrick]

Re: Not exactly a new veedub

but I was hoping you might be able to help me. I'm going to be getting a 1992 golf soon and in the interest of speed (legal speed) I was thinking of swapping in a 1.8 turbo. I was just wondering how difficult this swap is and if you have any suggestions. Also any idea on what this would cost me would be helpful.

There is a place that does such swaps in my home town, Regina. They're called CWS Tuning, and they swapped a 1.8t into gti, its beautiful.

Check it out, from what Ive heard the engines themselves are pretty pricey, and the swaps are quite problematic, but it can be done.

Also another option, its a 16v sirroco engine turbo'd theres a dude in the city with one of those, and its nutz fast!

But check out CWS for sure, and see what they have to say.

[Gumby]

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How is that guy from CWS tuning doing after his accident in the spring? I heard he has all or most of his memory back. I hope he is ok, he had/has a great natural talent for making really cool cars!

[Kor]

Re: Not exactly a new veedub

but I was hoping you might be able to help me. I'm going to be getting a 1992 golf soon and in the interest of speed (legal speed) I was thinking of swapping in a 1.8 turbo. I was just wondering how difficult this swap is and if you have any suggestions. Also any idea on what this would cost me would be helpful.

Although our name is newveedub, a lot of us have a soft spot for older VW's and own one or more earlier models.

I think swapping a 20V 1.8T is an AWESOME idea!

There was a video that Simon (D) once showed me that had a shop swapping a 1.8T I think, maybe he remembers...

First of all, I am sure that all engine swaps are difficult to some extent.

Second, I think it depends on if you want to swap just the engine or if you are looking to swap the electronics system, instrument cluster, all the sensors, etc. There are probably many options here, from standalone to interfacing with the 1992 system to swapping the whole 1.8T system.

Third, if you get the 150HP 20V I believe that the engine is somewhat simpler and probably a little easier to swap. Less electronic management, same potential.

If you plan on doing such a swap, go for an upgraded turbo at the same time!

Do you plan on getting a shop to do it, or doing it yourself...?

[crazycanuck]

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I was hoping to do it myself as I just don't have the money to pay someone to do it. I also would have help from someone who has already swapped a 2.2l vtec motor out of a prelude into a civic which I hear is no small task and while his expertise is in the honda field I think we would be able to pull it off. I also have some fabrication skills and access to a welding shop. If I am to go ahead with this where would you recomend I begin looking for a motor? What car should take it out of, what else should I take etc.? As for engine managment I was thinking of going with a hondata equivalent so I can have different tunes and different boost settings.

[R_Ethug]

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i know montgomery had a full 1.8T engine for sale here including the ECU dunno if they still have it though

[crazycanuck]

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i know montgomery had a full 1.8T engine for sale here including the ECU dunno if they still have it though

Any idea how much?

[Simon]

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this place is in town. sorta expensive though, but full motor with absolutely everything you need for the swap.

http://www.4nparts.com/4sale.htm

[NeonGTI]

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I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but I think you could get a lot more out of a turbo kit for the 2.0. The 1.8t longblocks I have seen for sale have been stupid expensive and you still need engine control.

For about 4 grand in parts you could get a big honkin IC, a re-built and updated t3 with warranty, all the odds and ends, and probably a stand-alone (an SDS). That combination would easily put you in the mid-high 200's for wheel HP.

What the 2.0 lacks in sophistication compared to the 1.8t it makes up for with an extra 200 cc of displacement.

[Canadian Turbo]

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The more common and easier swap in mk2s is to put a VR6 in that bad boy. It would probably be a lot cheaper and you would still get 174hp and the supercharger and turbo potential for the future.

Keep us posted and welcome to the boards

[crazycanuck]

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I actually looked into the VR6 swap first, but it apperently is very difficult and requires extensive fabrication.

[Canadian Turbo]

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I think the fabrication is a bit but way less complicated wiring and such than a more modern 1.8t, but hey if you are going that way you should hit up a 1.8T 225 from a TT

[crazycanuck]

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The 225 1.8t and the vw 1.8t are the same engine correct? So the difference is just in the tuning or do they have different internals. I was planning on upgrading the turbo no matter engine I go with.

[R_Ethug]

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the 225 TT has some beefed up internals i guess but to my knowledge it just has different software, a 2nd SMIC and different piping and bigger exhaust

[Canadian Turbo]

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The 225 has better internals so it can handle more mods and power!