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    B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

    Hey.

    Looking to replace the coilpacks and spark plugs on my passat. I found these on ECS and was curious as to whether anyone has done this upgrade and whether or not its worth for me to replace them with these 2.0t ones or just stick to stock ones.

    Here's the link.

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ion/ES2713409/
    2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
    Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!
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  • #2
    Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

    We stock the red ones at Calgary Autoworks. Have one set left.
    Calgary Autoworks

    2004.5 Jetta GLI
    2005 Audi Allroad

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    • #3
      Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

      Originally posted by BaggedGLI View Post
      We stock the red ones at Calgary Autoworks. Have one set left.
      Is it the same set that is on the website just all red instead? If so, how much?
      2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
      Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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      • #4
        Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

        There has been a lot of debate about weather the 2.0T coils are an improvement on new 1.8T coils... or if the improvement people have noticed is simply from replacing a tired out part. I've come across one person (Swede going by "Gulfstream") on Vortex who actually dynoed both sets of ignition coils and there was no difference whatsoever. I think the 2.0T coils are a little cheaper than the 1.8's though so it may be worth it for some people on that alone.

        That "conversion plate" isn't needed but there are a few different versions of billet holders around - not everyone likes the look of the tops of the ignition coils sticking above the valve cover... although it should keep the coils a little cooler when they're not resting on a hot surface...
        Work - houzz / linkedin
        Play - haldex swap

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        • #5
          Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

          Originally posted by All_Euro View Post
          There has been a lot of debate about weather the 2.0T coils are an improvement on new 1.8T coils... or if the improvement people have noticed is simply from replacing a tired out part. I've come across one person (Swede going by "Gulfstream") on Vortex who actually dynoed both sets of ignition coils and there was no difference whatsoever. I think the 2.0T coils are a little cheaper than the 1.8's though so it may be worth it for some people on that alone.

          That "conversion plate" isn't needed but there are a few different versions of billet holders around - not everyone likes the look of the tops of the ignition coils sticking above the valve cover... although it should keep the coils a little cooler when they're not resting on a hot surface...
          Yeah I noticed the price difference was one main thing that caught my eye, they did say that it would provide a slight power improvement although I could honestly care less about that. If I wanted more power I would chip it, I need it to be reliable at the moment. Your'e telling me that the plate isn't of any use then? People just complained about the gap and that was the fix? Thanks for the info, I will think about that when I decide to purchase new coil packs.
          2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
          Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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          • #6
            Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

            Originally posted by dJ View Post
            Yeah I noticed the price difference was one main thing that caught my eye, they did say that it would provide a slight power improvement although I could honestly care less about that. If I wanted more power I would chip it, I need it to be reliable at the moment. Your'e telling me that the plate isn't of any use then? People just complained about the gap and that was the fix? Thanks for the info, I will think about that when I decide to purchase new coil packs.

            Exactly - when the 2.0T coils were first being tested a guy on Vortex came up with the idea/design for adapters to bridge the gap between the coils and valve cover... one the vendors (INA I think) started producing the first test batches and the other vendors quickly followed. ECS makes a plate... not needed but not everyone like the look of raised coils.
            Work - houzz / linkedin
            Play - haldex swap

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            • #7
              Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

              I've run without spacers for probably 2 years now. No issues here

              Pat

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              1989 Porsche Carrera 4 // 5 Speed // Guards Red

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              Fully built 1.8T || AEB || Motoza tuned || ID1000 || S4 MAF || GT3076R

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              • #8
                Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                Originally posted by All_Euro View Post
                Exactly - when the 2.0T coils were first being tested a guy on Vortex came up with the idea/design for adapters to bridge the gap between the coils and valve cover... one the vendors (INA I think) started producing the first test batches and the other vendors quickly followed. ECS makes a plate... not needed but not everyone like the look of raised coils.
                Ahhhh icic. Ok cool. Thanks a lot for input guys. I don't have a lot of knowledge with these gas engines yet, thanks for helping me out.

                Thanks for input Pat, I will keep that in mind!
                2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
                Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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                • #9
                  Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                  Originally posted by dJ View Post
                  Ahhhh icic. Ok cool. Thanks a lot for input guys. I don't have a lot of knowledge with these gas engines yet, thanks for helping me out.

                  Thanks for input Pat, I will keep that in mind!
                  I ran without the adapters for quite a while as well with no implications, just have to make sure to blow out the spark plug tubes before you remove the plugs (it's a good thing to do no matter what)

                  PM'd
                  Calgary Autoworks

                  2004.5 Jetta GLI
                  2005 Audi Allroad

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                  • #10
                    Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                    Ok, anything I should avoid as far as brands or kinds of spark plugs?

                    Is a spark plug gap gauge useful at all?
                    Last edited by dJ; 07-07-2015, 10:33 AM.
                    2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
                    Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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                    • #11
                      Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                      Originally posted by dJ View Post
                      Ok, anything I should avoid as far as brands or kinds of spark plugs?

                      Is a spark plug gap gauge useful at all?
                      I got a gap gauge because I had bought a set of plugs that were supposedly pre-gapped but must have been dropped or something so they were all wonky. That said, I never needed to adjust plugs again as other plugs I bought were fine. I guess having a cheap gauge just to double check doesn't hurt.
                      Stefan
                      -> '19 Deep Black Pearl Alltrack
                      -> '05 Urban Grey Passat Wagon TDI.
                      -> Past rides: '14 Allroad, 06 Mazda5, '98 Jetta K2, '01 Jetta TDI, '91 Mazda B2200, '81 Toyota Cressida
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                      • #12
                        Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                        I would check the gap to make sure they are consistent, for a stock car/ stage 1 car that isnt driven very hard - BKR6EIX plugs, if it has a tune and is driven fairly hard then BKR7EIX, (NGK). Either of those are the iridium and come pre-gapped.
                        Calgary Autoworks

                        2004.5 Jetta GLI
                        2005 Audi Allroad

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                        • #13
                          Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                          Sweet. Ok thanks guys.
                          2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
                          Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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                          • #14
                            Re: B5 1.8T Passat Coil Pack Conversion kit

                            Or if you don't mind changing the plugs with every oil change get the copper plugs for way cheaper and better performance. BKR6E

                            Pat

                            His
                            1989 Porsche Carrera 4 // 5 Speed // Guards Red

                            Hers
                            1987 VW Cabriolet // 20VT // O2J // Recaros // Porsche Slate Grey // Ronal Turbos // FK Coilovers

                            2005 Porsche Cayenne S

                            Theirs
                            1977 VW Type 2 Westfalia

                            Gone
                            2004 Audi A4 1.8T // quattro // 6 Speed // Brilliant Red
                            Fully built 1.8T || AEB || Motoza tuned || ID1000 || S4 MAF || GT3076R

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