Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

2.0TSI block heater question

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 2.0TSI block heater question

    My mom picked up a 2014 CC with the 2.0 TSI. It seems that the block heater option is an aftermarket pan heater, not an OEM block heater. Soooo, is this a sign that there is less need for a block heater with current engines and oils? I feel like we should add a heater because that's what I am familliar with, but don't really have a technical rational. I know with my old truck running conventional 15w40, that the oil was like molasses in the cold, so heating it made sense, but the light weight synthetics flow well when cold. If the oil is moving, why plug it in? Pan heaters have potential to cause other problems too if they are damaged... like fire...

    **if someone could kindly fix my title, that would be great.
    Last edited by stefan; 10-02-2014, 08:08 PM.
    Stefan
    -> '19 Deep Black Pearl Alltrack
    -> '05 Urban Grey Passat Wagon TDI.
    -> Past rides: '14 Allroad, 06 Mazda5, '98 Jetta K2, '01 Jetta TDI, '91 Mazda B2200, '81 Toyota Cressida
    -> FutuRe Ride...??!

  • #2
    Re: 2.0tsi block heater questiom

    Should be good especially for the newer cars. I have not used a block heater on my vr6 since I got it and it starts every time without a struggle. The diesel on the other hand....

    If you wanted to install it yourself I have the stick on oil pan heaters
    Now offering detailing services!! http://www.gtrauto.ca/detailing-services.html

    United Motorsport, Kerma TDI, KW, APR, COBB, Magnaflow, K&N, AFE, Motul, Lubromoly, Sonax, Air Lift, HPA, Ohlins, Klutch Wheels, Remus Exhaust

    info@gtrauto.ca / www.gtrauto.ca / GTR Auto Facebook

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

      I run 5-40 Motul in my 2012 MK6 Jetta GLI with the 2.0tsi engine. I don't have a line heater or a pan heater. I did not have any issues in previous winters. However in my previous MK4 Jetta TDI I did have a pan heater and and inline coolant heater. It worked great.
      2012 VW Jetta GLI

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

        I had a 2.0 fsi in my gti I went 6 years without plugging In and it was fine. I think my battery was starting to go near the end but that's it. In my rs4 I had a hard time starting last winter but I think it's battery related again.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

          In my experience, the aftermarket pan heaters have been less than stellar.
          Matt
          IG: @chalmsmkvi

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

            We stock the OEM inline coolant heaters, have installed many on customer cars. I wouldn't go any other route. The pan heater is nice cause the oil flows easy and its easy to crank over. Same for the Inline coolant heater but you also get heat super fast inside the car with that one.
            Calgary Autoworks

            2004.5 Jetta GLI
            2005 Audi Allroad

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

              I haven't plugged a car in during the winter for the last 10 years. And that includes my shitty old E30 and Cabriolet.
              15 GTI
              65 Beetle
              87 BMW E30

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

                If cold starting outside in very cold weather, it is better for the long term life of the engine..... Most people could care less about having an engine last 30 or 40 years.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

                  Originally posted by BaggedGLI View Post
                  We stock the OEM inline coolant heaters, have installed many on customer cars. I wouldn't go any other route. The pan heater is nice cause the oil flows easy and its easy to crank over. Same for the Inline coolant heater but you also get heat super fast inside the car with that one.
                  Here is an oem inline option? What's the part number so I can check it out?
                  Stefan
                  -> '19 Deep Black Pearl Alltrack
                  -> '05 Urban Grey Passat Wagon TDI.
                  -> Past rides: '14 Allroad, 06 Mazda5, '98 Jetta K2, '01 Jetta TDI, '91 Mazda B2200, '81 Toyota Cressida
                  -> FutuRe Ride...??!

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

                    I put a coolant heater in my MKV GTI. It's nice when the car blows warm air nearly instantly on super cold days.
                    TDI SportWagen

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

                      My jetta starts perfectly parked in a garage, starts perfect in the outside too, it had an oil pan heater but it caught on fire so I'm never putting one in again... But blowing hot air instantly is pretty awesome though^
                      Current Fleet
                      #ProjectICreate Jetta GLI32
                      2001 Cobra #88/3786
                      1989 Jetta Trophy 1 of 500
                      2004 Audi A2 FSI Colour Storm RHD
                      2015 B8.5 S4 Sepang/Technik/6MT/SD/AAD/CF

                      Motorsport Engineer

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: 2.0TSI block heater question

                        I have the in-line heaters on my Mk4 and Mk5 and they're great. However when I asked the dealer to put one on another Mk4, that said they've been discontinued because "they leak" and now they're doing stick on oil pan heaters (which they say work if you prepare the oil pan properly before sticking them on). Well, I've never had trouble with my coolant heater and - think about it - it heats the whole engine by convection. So much so, that say you shouldn't have them on for more than 4 hours. An oil pan heater is less efficient (loses half your heat to the atmosphere) and lower wattage and just heats the oil.
                        Yeah, sure, your engine may start in the winter without a block heater, but most of the wear comes in that start-up period.

                        Comment

                        Working...
                        X