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  • #1

    Well this is gonna be pricey.....

    4 months ago, the head on my 1.8t cracked. Got an AEB head shipped over to me, got it machined and did a valve job on it.
    After the head conversion, i went to fire it up and nothing. It turns over, but no spark.
    Vagcom scan =

    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4 (x64)
    Data version: 20120807



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    Chassis Type: 9M - VW Jetta IV
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
    75 76

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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
    Part No: 06A 906 032 LQ
    Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0005
    Coding: 07550
    Shop #: WSC 00066
    VCID: 78F5C3A158127FD8195
    3VWSE69M23M130640 VWZ7Z0B5953691

    11 Faults Found:
    17840 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112) - DELETED
    P1432 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
    17695 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) - DELETED
    P1287 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
    17939 - Camshaft Timing Adjustment - FORGOT TO CHANGE CAM TRIGGER WHEEL
    P1531 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
    P1297 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
    17772 - Cylinder 4 Ignition Circuit
    P1364 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    17769 - Cylinder 3 Ignition Circuit
    P1361 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    17763 - Cylinder 1 Ignition Circuit
    P1355 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    17951 - Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187)
    P1543 - 35-10 - Signal too Small - Intermittent
    17580 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Signal too Low
    P1172 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
    P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    17069 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit (J271)
    P0685 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0010 1101

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Before anyone screams coil packs, theyve been upgraded with the stage 2 coils from ECS.
    The last code (ecm relay) was what i suspected to be a shot relay. Replaced it and nothing.
    Checked the grounds and wiring harness for the ignition system, re grounded it and still nothing.
    Basically im at a complete loss. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
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  • #2
    Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...rk!-wont-start!

    Is this you? If so weren't you registered here under the same name?

    Anyways, regardless of that, you need to get to the bottom of your ecu power supply issue.

    Also, did you by any chance damage your primary o2 sensor wiring?
    Last edited by sabbySC; 09-07-2012, 10:29 PM.
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    • #3
      Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

      Clear all the codes and try starting it again. I want to see what was there before and what just showed up. Also, you need to change the cam wheel or it wont work. If it is an AEB head, you need to use the cam trigger wheel from the old head (AWP, AWD etc.)

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      • #4
        Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

        Originally posted by martin13 View Post
        Clear all the codes and try starting it again. I want to see what was there before and what just showed up. Also, you need to change the cam wheel or it wont work. If it is an AEB head, you need to use the cam trigger wheel from the old head (AWP, AWD etc.)
        Done and just finished swapping it over, still nothing
        Last edited by RobertPlant; 09-08-2012, 01:34 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

          Originally posted by sabbySC View Post
          http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...rk!-wont-start!

          Is this you? If so weren't you registered here under the same name?

          Anyways, regardless of that, you need to get to the bottom of your ecu power supply issue.

          Also, did you by any chance damage your primary o2 sensor wiring?
          Yeah, just made a new one to keep a certain someone from posting useless garbage on the thread.
          Not as far as i can tell; i've gone through the ignition harness and re-grounded it as it was a common failure in the 02-04 jetta/golf/nb.

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          • #6
            Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

            As an aside to your problem, you created a new user name on these boards to hide who you are yet you expect people to spend their time trying to help you? That is a little underhanded man, its like pretending to be homeless so you can go to the food bank for dinner.
            I do hope you find your problem, it might be best to start checking your wiring for continuity from end to end.
            Name: Brent
            His: '04 TDI Golf Mods: None If it's smoken it ain't broken
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            Fun car: '92 Blue Karmann Crabby Cabby Mods: Coils, front and rear swaybars, LED interior lights and some other old things.

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            • #7
              Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

              Originally posted by Stonewall View Post
              As an aside to your problem, you created a new user name on these boards to hide who you are yet you expect people to spend their time trying to help you? That is a little underhanded man, its like pretending to be homeless so you can go to the food bank for dinner.
              I do hope you find your problem, it might be best to start checking your wiring for continuity from end to end.
              No, I did to keep useless **** off the thread, anything I post the kid just trolls it :/
              If your not gonna post diagnosis or anything, don't post

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              • #8
                Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                Don't worry about trolling, just be yourself and don't get your self riled up. You've got to listen to other peoples input if you expect them to help you out, wether you like it or not.

                This is a community, people you piss of here are real people, they are the ones that will help or not help you.

                As for diagnosis; here is the needed ECU pinout info to troubleshoot wether you have power at the ECU or not. Do you have a bentley manual? You can try a new 409 relay while your at it. Where are you located?

                edit - forgot to add the link:

                http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ess-comparison
                Last edited by sabbySC; 09-08-2012, 01:49 PM.
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                • #9
                  Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                  Originally posted by Stonewall View Post
                  As an aside to your problem, you created a new user name on these boards to hide who you are yet you expect people to spend their time trying to help you? That is a little underhanded man, its like pretending to be homeless so you can go to the food bank for dinner.
                  I do hope you find your problem, it might be best to start checking your wiring for continuity from end to end.
                  Agreed, better to post your problems under your own name. It's not like it is that hard to determine who it is, it's not like cracked heads come around all the time.

                  Anyways I would place money on the fact that you either shorted out some fuses/relays or didn't properly extend your wires when you were trying to do your partial wire tuck. Especially since you said that some wires crossed, i would start going through the bentley manual and checking every fuse/relay. Starting with the two relays in the engine compartment.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                    Spent the day tearing apart the wiring, and checked everything. i mean everything. From every pin on the coil pack harness to ground, both ecm relays with the help of the bentley, and there seems to be nothing. Im throwing in the towel and taking it to the stealership :/
                    thanks for the help

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                    • #11
                      Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                      Originally posted by RobertPlant View Post
                      Spent the day tearing apart the wiring, and checked everything. i mean everything. From every pin on the coil pack harness to ground, both ecm relays with the help of the bentley, and there seems to be nothing. Im throwing in the towel and taking it to the stealership :/
                      thanks for the help
                      If you can wait, get it into TuneDub, or one of the recommended shops on here...shytee you couldn't get it going.
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                      Mine....2005 Golf TDI, VNT 17, Malone tuned stage 4, Spec stage 2 clutch, FMIC, Ventectomy, NewSouth gauges, BuzzKen 2.5 turbo back exhaust, Evolution Skidplate, Helix OEM Reps retrofitted with Morimoto Bixenon mini's, ST coils, colour matched Huffs. Frostheater

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                      • #12
                        Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                        I had a breakthough this morning. So i spent the day testing and running a new ground from the ignition system, and i went to fire it up and nothing. i pulled out a coil pack and connected it, cranked it over and i had spark! threw the plug in as well, and it too had spark.

                        Then i had a thought. I put a MLS head gasket on when i converted to AEB. With the added bore length, could it be possible its not getting enough compression for the mixture to ignite? and if thats possible, would gapping the plugs fix it, or should i tear the head off and put a stock gasket on :|

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                        • #13
                          Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                          A stock gasket is best, I am running an victor reinz and have hit over 30psi by accident but didn't blow the gasket.

                          Anyway, do you have fuel? Have you tried changing the fuel pump relay yet? If not where are you located? I have an extra one that you could try out.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                            yeah thats what the forums have been saying too. Stupid me lol
                            Im in airdrie, but yeah im getting fuel, its damn near flooded my engine at this point. Ive checked the relay and its good.
                            im stumped

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                            • #15
                              Re: Well this is gonna be pricey.....

                              Give me a call tomorrow at CAW, we can probably get you in thursday/friday.
                              Calgary Autoworks

                              2004.5 Jetta GLI
                              2005 Audi Allroad

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