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    Volkswagen Golf R Inches Closer to U.S. Approval
    Courtesy of Car & Driver

    A recent trip to VW’s Wolfsburg headquarters provided us the chance to tour Volkswagen R GmbH, the brand’s in-house tuning and coachbuilding arm, where we delved into the company’s plans to bring future R products to the United States. We also got a second shot behind the wheel of the 270-hp Golf R.

    A bit of background: Founded in 2003, the R group was first formed to serve the needs of VW’s R&D efforts—it was responsible for, among other things, the previous-generation R32—but was officially renamed in order to help marketing efforts. The idea is to develop R as a fully realized brand, à la BMW’s M division, which can then sell unique models, trim packages, and accessories (such as wheels) through VW dealers. At present, the U.S. market sees just one R-ified product: the CC R-Line, which is a sporty styling package with no attendant mechanical changes. Coming in the future are similar R-Line treatments for the Tiguan, and possibly the Touareg and Jetta.

    What we don’t get (but want) are the hotted-up Golf R and Scirocco R models. Both are positioned at the top of each vehicle’s lineup, and boast an adjustable suspension, aggressive styling packages, sexy “Talladega” wheels, performance tires, dual exhaust tips, sport seats, unique sport steering wheels, and a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder with a neck-snapping 270 hp and 258 lb-ft of torque. While the three-door-only Scirocco R sends the power exclusively to its front wheels, the Golf R—available in three- or five-door flavors—is equipped with 4Motion all-wheel drive as standard. Our autobahn blast in a Golf R at speeds approaching 150 mph confirmed what we reported in our First Drive: The thing is a hoot, and that it feels lighter and more sophisticated than its predecessor, the 250-hp, V-6–powered R32. It’s simply the best Golf ever, and if Volkswagen is serious about emotionally connecting Americans to its products (a line of thought repeated several times during our visit) it needs to come here, stat.

    But will it? Almost certainly. Bringing the Golf R stateside is still under study, technically, but we were told with a wink and a nod that official confirmation of U.S. sales just might happen at the 2011 Detroit auto show next month, and that, if importation did indeed occur, the car would hit as a 2012 model. No one was willing to discuss pricing, of course, but we estimate a sticker of around $33K. Furthermore, VW R executives mentioned that the company is not averse to developing models for other markets that wouldn’t be sold in the homeland: Can you say “Jetta R?”

    If VW wants to reach its goal of selling a million cars per year in the U.S. by 2018, it’s going to have to open the floodgates on both high- and low-volume products, and highly gratifying and, er, “emotional” cars like the Golf R would be key in solidifying the brand’s enthusiast base. We’re just glad that the Golf R is maybe (definitely?), perhaps (please?) coming here: We “R” certainly ready.
    Rob
    Daddy's "Hooligan" - MK4 R32 in Deep Blue Pearl
    Mommy's "Gran Turismo" - E70 X5M in Black Sapphire Metallic

    GONE... BUT NOT FORGOTTEN:

    The Family "Muscle Car" - B7 RS4 in Misano Red - Dad's 20th Anniversary "Wanna-be R32" GTi

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    Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

    Pics for clicks!

    Rob
    Daddy's "Hooligan" - MK4 R32 in Deep Blue Pearl
    Mommy's "Gran Turismo" - E70 X5M in Black Sapphire Metallic

    GONE... BUT NOT FORGOTTEN:

    The Family "Muscle Car" - B7 RS4 in Misano Red - Dad's 20th Anniversary "Wanna-be R32" GTi

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    • #3
      Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

      OMFG!
      It's coming!
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...or-U.S.-Market

      PIKCHARS
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...lf-R-Pics-only!

      WITH A STICK. BOOYA. 2 or 4 doors, and the dope R SEATS.
      Cam


      2004 VW R32 Turbo

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      • #4
        Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

        260 hp lol weak
        2002 VW Golf GT TDI
        2016 VW Passat BiTDI

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        • #5
          Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

          Originally posted by bart View Post
          260 hp lol weak
          lol get it tuned.

          260 is more than a lot of people can handle.
          Calgary Autoworks

          2004.5 Jetta GLI
          2005 Audi Allroad

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          • #6
            Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

            No R Seats, not surprising, no side airbags is no go on this side of the pond.

            • 2.0L turbocharged engine with significant hp increase over GTI
            • 4th generation Haldex 4Motion - all wheel drive
            • Increased rotor diameter translating to improved braking
            • Sport tuned ESP
            • Upgraded sport tuned suspension
            • 2 door or 4 door
            • Manual Transmission Only
            • Unique 18" alloy wheels
            • Unique steering wheel
            • Unique interior trim
            • Exterior R model badge and bodykit
            • R model shift knob
            • R model door sills
            • R model front and rear fascia with dual, center exit, exhaust
            Blair
            Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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            • #7
              Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

              Originally posted by bart View Post
              260 hp lol weak
              surprised? re-flash it to 300hp, or get an S4.

              -- Edit

              $600? re-flash & you're at 320 tq & 320 hp.
              http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...ans_265hp.html
              Last edited by cam_wmh; 12-09-2010, 02:50 PM. Reason: Added APR link
              Cam


              2004 VW R32 Turbo

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              • #8
                Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                The question is with the relaxed bumper laws will they be sold in canada?
                Name: Brent
                His: '04 TDI Golf Mods: None If it's smoken it ain't broken
                Family: '15 Jetta Sportwagon
                Fun car: '92 Blue Karmann Crabby Cabby Mods: Coils, front and rear swaybars, LED interior lights and some other old things.

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                  Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                  Originally posted by Canadian Turbo View Post
                  ...no side airbags is no go on this side of the pond.
                  What does that mean? Side airbags aren't required in NA... are they?

                  Originally posted by Stonewall View Post
                  The question is with the relaxed bumper laws will they be sold in canada?
                  Huh? If the bumpers are good enough for the USA... they're good enough for Canada. My MK4 R32 is confirmation of that.
                  Rob
                  Daddy's "Hooligan" - MK4 R32 in Deep Blue Pearl
                  Mommy's "Gran Turismo" - E70 X5M in Black Sapphire Metallic

                  GONE... BUT NOT FORGOTTEN:

                  The Family "Muscle Car" - B7 RS4 in Misano Red - Dad's 20th Anniversary "Wanna-be R32" GTi

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                    Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                    Originally posted by Deuce View Post
                    What does that mean? Side airbags aren't required in NA... are they?.
                    I believe the R (recaro?), seats don't have side airbags. NHTSA would likely get pissy, to learn that the priciest premium seats, have less safefy features.


                    Originally posted by Deuce View Post
                    Huh? If the bumpers are good enough for the USA... they're good enough for Canada. My MK4 R32 is confirmation of that.
                    With the strong CDN dollar, importing a new R from the US might not be out of the question.
                    Cam


                    2004 VW R32 Turbo

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                    • #11
                      Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                      Will people cross shop this against the BMW 1 M?

                      At one time the R32 was cross shopped against the highest performance cars in the segment (STI, Evo, etc).

                      I don't know if it will really hold up anymore... now it compares to the "Lancer Ralliart Edition" instead... lame.
                      Last edited by Kor; 12-09-2010, 03:58 PM.
                      KR
                      Porsche 991 Carrera S

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                      • #12
                        Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                        I would say there will be a massive price variance between this and the BMW 1M Coupe (could be close to 70K for that car). The estimated Vortex price of the R will be below 34,000 US and a current GTI starts at 23,690, which would estimate the Canadian price to be around 40-41K to start for the R in Canada, which will for sure put it in the STI price range and a base Evo, but that can get very pricey too.
                        Last edited by Canadian Turbo; 12-09-2010, 04:20 PM.
                        Blair
                        Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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                        • #13
                          Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                          Originally posted by Kor View Post
                          Will people cross shop this against the BMW 1 M?

                          At one time the R32 was cross shopped against the highest performance cars in the segment (STI, Evo, etc).

                          I don't know if it will really hold up anymore... now it compares to the "Lancer Ralliart Edition" instead... lame.
                          M1 to Golf R? Lolz. You're trying too hard.
                          Cam


                          2004 VW R32 Turbo

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                          • #14
                            Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                            This car is very very high on my radar, even if I buy from the states.
                            Geoff
                            Fear is the element that unites all losers.

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                            • #15
                              Re: VW Golf R - An Update from C&D

                              damn i need to buy 1m, such a tt-rs killer!
                              Last edited by bart; 12-09-2010, 06:49 PM.
                              2002 VW Golf GT TDI
                              2016 VW Passat BiTDI

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