Traction Control Disable

[All_Euro]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but I've always hated the traction control and had to trun it off for both spirited driving & to get moving from iced up stop signs so...

ABS Only
1C0 907 379 C/J/L : 04097

ABS/EDL/ASR
1C0 907 379 D/K : 18945

ABS/EDL/ASR/ESP
1C0 907 379 E/G/M : 19970

I got this off Vortex, http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ng-EDL-and-ASR

But what I found is that code 04097 isn't accepted and I had to use 04098 instead... and it disabled everything except ABS and EDL. The GLI is a lot more fun to drive now and I'm getting better traction.

Cheers

[luunta]

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i leave it on, and never have problems.. in either circumstance. Granted the Jetta has never experienced a truly iced up stop sign, but the snow we had couple of weeks ago posed no problem with the TC.

[All_Euro]

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I just find that the traction control cuts out at the wrong times and a for too long... maybe it's just annoying to me.

[stefan]

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Although it is a bit of a pain on some icy starts, ESP is pretty awesome for black ice/hydroplaning/icy cornering when the car is already in motion. I'm a fan, although it would be cool if the switch stayed off when you switched it off. It's surprising how well it works to keep the car tracking straight. I was messing with it in a parking lot the other day. It statistically was a huge improvement for single vehicle accident claims where you hit water/ice/swerve something on the road. When Merc first introduced it there was something like a 15% drop in single vehicle accidents in Merc's over other cars. Insurance companies love it and it will probably mandatory very soon. I think US is looking to implement it by next year. Other than icy starts, I think for the most part, leaving it on for everyday driving is not an entirely bad idea.

[luunta]

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I leave it on all the time. Works brilliant when I need it to. Especially with all the wet roads in Vancouver. Can't imagine how helpful it is on ice. AWD would be better, but this works well.

[J-hop]

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I just find that the traction control cuts out at the wrong times and a for too long... maybe it's just annoying to me.

agreed 100%, I find it cuts power all the time in corners when the inside wheel slips and you end up in bad spots sometimes while turning left at intersections etc.

I end up turning the TC off on the jetta all winter, I find driving with the TC on feels really disconnected. I guess though I did spend 5 winters with a car that had no traction control or ABS and I guess I have never been able to get used to the way the car reacts with TC on.

[stefan]

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agreed 100%, I find it cuts power all the time in corners when the inside wheel slips and you end up in bad spots sometimes while turning left at intersections etc.

Switching between my cars it throws me off. I expect a little understeer with fwd and snow in my mk3 if I accel a little fast, and I just sort of naturally correct for it. If I do the same in the passat, the understeer is gone and I end up turning way sharper. It's closer to where the wheels are actually pointing, but it can be unexpected.

[mr_barbeque]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIuPS...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-hHWSQhKuc

[longsock]

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They have it for a reason. It's for your own safety... I wouldn't take it off, only time I take it off is it im stuck or in the summer

http://www.all-about-car-selection.com/ESP.html
An Electronic Stabilization Program is an active safety system that uses the anti-lock brake and traction control sensors amongst others, to detect if a vehicle is sliding out of control. It 'reads' the road and senses if you're in trouble.
Most automotive manufacturers have a system similar to ESP, although they may call it something else. General Motors calls their system Stabilitrak.
Nissan and Infiniti call their system VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control). All of these systems are stability systems. ESP is the most widely used term as it pioneered this technology.

How it works

Sensors monitor vehicle yaw rate (rotational movement of the car), speed, throttle input, steering wheel angle and others to determine if the vehicle is heading in its intended direction.
If, for example, you are turning a corner and encounter oversteer (rear wheels are sliding), the sensors will reduce engine power, and apply the brake to the front outside tire.
In this situation the front outside tire is being used as a 'pivot point' in which to get the car back on it's intended course. As you can see, a stability system can apply the brake to just one wheel, and/or reduce engine output. This will keep the vehicle headed in the right direction.

A stability system works with the traction control system but unlike traction control, it monitors lateral vehicle movement in addition to longitudinal movements.
Stability systems are well worth the money. They can dramatically enhance the safety of a vehicle. They can keep the vehicle on course and provide a safety net for a driver should something go wrong.
ESP can significantly reduce oversteer and understeer.
However, these systems are still subject to the laws of physics. If you take a corner way too fast or do some thing very reckless, a stability management system will not be able to rectify the situation.

[Stonewall]

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[MusicalGenius]

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They have it for a reason. It's for your own safety... I wouldn't take it off, only time I take it off is it im stuck or in the summer

http://www.all-about-car-selection.com/ESP.html
An Electronic Stabilization Program is an active safety system that uses the anti-lock brake and traction control sensors amongst others, to detect if a vehicle is sliding out of control. It 'reads' the road and senses if you're in trouble.
Most automotive manufacturers have a system similar to ESP, although they may call it something else. General Motors calls their system Stabilitrak.
Nissan and Infiniti call their system VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control). All of these systems are stability systems. ESP is the most widely used term as it pioneered this technology.

How it works

Sensors monitor vehicle yaw rate (rotational movement of the car), speed, throttle input, steering wheel angle and others to determine if the vehicle is heading in its intended direction.
If, for example, you are turning a corner and encounter oversteer (rear wheels are sliding), the sensors will reduce engine power, and apply the brake to the front outside tire.
In this situation the front outside tire is being used as a 'pivot point' in which to get the car back on it's intended course. As you can see, a stability system can apply the brake to just one wheel, and/or reduce engine output. This will keep the vehicle headed in the right direction.

A stability system works with the traction control system but unlike traction control, it monitors lateral vehicle movement in addition to longitudinal movements.
Stability systems are well worth the money. They can dramatically enhance the safety of a vehicle. They can keep the vehicle on course and provide a safety net for a driver should something go wrong.
ESP can significantly reduce oversteer and understeer.
However, these systems are still subject to the laws of physics. If you take a corner way too fast or do some thing very reckless, a stability management system will not be able to rectify the situation.

Very well stated, I only turn it off late at night in summer when I want to drive back roads.

[All_Euro]

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It's good to see people being passionate about safety & I'm the same way. I'm happy that cars have TC... just wish mine would respond better... or be customizable.

My driving background is with non TC vehicles on back roads and roads that aren't proper roads at all; and you need to have a really good feel for what's happening. With the TC on in my mk4... no feel... no traction... no fun.

Just an option for those who want it

BTW, who can I call to pull me out of the ditch if neeed be

[MechEngg]

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I like my TC in the winter time.

What really grinds my gears however are the people at the stop signs/lights with no traction control on who spin their wheels through the whole intersection and just polish the ice, thinking that they are moving quicker because they are spinning their wheels.

Its simple physics, the coefficient of static friction is ALWAYS greater than the coefficient of kinetic friction. This means you get more grip by not spinning your tires.

[BaggedGLI]

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Look on vortex, there is a vagcom mod to change the default of the traction control to off, so when you start the car, its off, the you press the button to turn it on.

Personally, in the jetta, traction control is ALWAYS off.

The passat....... well it doesn't have traction control.

[All_Euro]

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I like my TC in the winter time.

What really grinds my gears however are the people at the stop signs/lights with no traction control on who spin their wheels through the whole intersection and just polish the ice, thinking that they are moving quicker because they are spinning their wheels.

x10, that's one of the best things that TC does for the masses!