MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

[MentalSideArm]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

This thing looks crazy, not sure I'd trust a "magnetic" device to stay on.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

Where can I even buy an inline heater?? I want waaaaarm GTI this winter.

[Natty54]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

If you guys wanted I could prob set up a group buy (depending on how many are interested) for either a inline heater or the stick on oil pan. Let me know and I will check with my supplier and see what I can do.

[MentalSideArm]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

Price dependent, I'd probably be in.

[GTI CANADIAN]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

Dont need it. My MKV GTI started all the time last winter. I think the lowest temp on the dash was -38.5c

[Geobmx4life]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

This thing looks crazy, not sure I'd trust a "magnetic" device to stay on.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

Where can I even buy an inline heater?? I want waaaaarm GTI this winter.

We use those magnet heaters on our work equipment, they do the job, but you do have to remove them on a car...usually the oil pan.

[darkmanCANADA]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

http://www.eurodrivers.ca/forums/sho...t=15446&page=3, post #34

Gregg Distributors to get the genuine Zerostart. Just need a couple of hoses and some clamps. REMEMBER: remove the checkvalve!!!!

[Turkey]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

I contacted Zerostart last year and they sent me the following message (regurgitated from a post I made last year).

"Thank you for your interest in our Custom Engine Heater kits for the Volkswagen TDI. At this time we are concentrating on the TDI diesel engine due to the large demand. Unfortunately the cooling systems are different from the gasoline versions along due to components under the hood which we have to design for being we utilize an external tank type heater."

Are they trying to say that it won't work in a GTI? I can never get a straight answer.

[darkmanCANADA]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

http://pics2.tdiclub.com/gwillie/zer...%20install.htm

[jiggseob]

I go with inline heater...

In my 98 Beetle tdi, I have a clamp-on 300W oil pan heater. Plugged in all night, at -40 with a bit of a breeze in the back yard, I checked temp with a point-and-shoot thermometer, head temp was +4C. If your engine grenades and won't start at +4 from the oil-pan up, you better stay home.

I have a peel-and-stick oilpan heater on my 81 Landcruiser with 3B diesel. It always starts when plugged in, didn't bother to check temp with thermo-gun.

I just put a circ-heater in oil cooler line - is that an in-line heater - in my 03 Jetta ALH, and after overnight of -30, head temp was like +20 (estimated, it was warm to touch).

http://www.eurodrivers.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=20721

For performance and ease of install, I vote circ-heater.

As far as starting a fire, anything that gets hot and has fuel and air will burn. The sound dampening insulation on the inside of our belly pans is non-flammable. Soak it with oil, and its very flammable. If the heater is in good contact with the aluminum oil pan which is in good contact with the block, heat will be transferred away and it won't get hot enough to burn. If the heater falls off and comes in contact with oil-soaked insulation - it would probably burn. A properly applied peel-and-stick will stick - its been on my Landcruiser for 20 years thru hell and back - no sign of even starting to peel off in spite of lotsa weepy gaskets leaking oil all over it. All three types have a cord, and a frayed or chafed cord will cause a fire. The frost-plug heater has a plug connection that can be prone to loosening and arcing-sparking-welding to cause a fire. Also, a frost-plug heater or peel&stick pan heater keeps heating until electricity is turned off. The circ-heaters use a thermo-switch to shut off at 220F which is way below the burn-temp (even smolder temp) of any material. For that reason alone, its my opinion that a working thermo-cutoff in the circ-heater would be the safest. Period.

Jiggs.

[MechEngg]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

If anybody wants i installed a 1000W zerostart on a 1.8t Tiptronic the other week. Almost everybody says it cant be done but with a few wires tucked out of the way and some work i installed it within 3 hours. If you have any questions let me know.

I contacted Zerostart last year and they sent me the following message (regurgitated from a post I made last year).

"Thank you for your interest in our Custom Engine Heater kits for the Volkswagen TDI. At this time we are concentrating on the TDI diesel engine due to the large demand. Unfortunately the cooling systems are different from the gasoline versions along due to components under the hood which we have to design for being we utilize an external tank type heater."

Are they trying to say that it won't work in a GTI? I can never get a straight answer.

[Turkey]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

If you have any questions let me know.

What hoses did you use to connect it? Where did you mount it?

I'll take whatever other info you have!

Thanks!

[MechEngg]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

I will make a thread and take pictures for you guys this weekend. It was a very tight squeeze but it fits and temp is up to 45C in the mornings

[longsock]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

I will make a thread and take pictures for you guys this weekend. It was a very tight squeeze but it fits and temp is up to 45C in the mornings

lucky bastard

[twisted by dezign]

Re: MKV: Block Heater vs Inline Heater

Dont need it. My MKV GTI started all the time last winter. I think the lowest temp on the dash was -38.5c

Same here. My GTI has started flawlessly in every temperature.