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  • #16
    Re: Car starters

    My car starts fine and along with our Christmas lights my electricity bill is lower

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    • #17
      Re: Car starters

      All that crap about cars smashing through garages and starting accidentally is just owner stupidity. I have a remote start on my MK3, and it was a great investment. I leave the car in neutral when I want to start the car with the remote, or I leave it in first when I dont need to start it. There are certain safety mechanisms installed to prevent the car from starting in gear.

      For instance:

      1) to set the car to start with the remote, your foot must be on the brake, car needs to be in neutral, pull up the hand brake, let your foot off the brake, and turn the ignition to the off position. The car is still running, until you either hit the brake (wont set the remote start) or open (get out) and close the door (set the remote start). Then the alarm sounds and the car is set.

      2) If you leave the car in gear, the clutch is pressed down, and most likely your foot is on the brake. If you turn the ignition, the car will shut off, and the starter will not be set.

      As for giving the car to other mechanics or shops, I simply take the remote off the key chain and give them only the key. They can lock the car that way.

      Anyone who's had their car crash through a wall and blaimed the remote starter, wasnt very smart in the first place and it was their own fault.
      Last edited by P Arkus; 08-11-2010, 08:23 AM.
      Patryk
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      • #18
        Re: Car starters

        It's a diesel, I've heard of people having them in diesels before and I've even talked to a guy in airdrie about it. Said it's not practical in a tdi. With the glow plug recall half the cars don't start anyways.

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        • #19
          Re: Car starters

          Sorry, my statement was to explain about the cars crashing through walls. I understand for a diesel it might not quite be worth it because it wont heat up at idle. I just wanted to make it clear that those stories about cars accidentally being turned on should not scare people away from gettin remote starters if it is worth it for their application.
          Patryk
          Instagram: @parkus08

          91 BMW 340is ///M-Tech II - Under construction
          08 VW .:R32
          04 Audi A4 Avant 1.8TQ

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          • #20
            Re: Car starters

            Agreed. Even with a frost heater or equivalent after starting the car your temp will drop and you will lose heat anyways. Best part about them is you can hop in start and drive. Hot air blows from the vents right away.

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            • #21
              Re: Car starters

              I did not read all of the above so if this was mentioned already then deal with it. Their is a series of steps you have to take in order to engage a starter on a standard transmission. If you press the start button and the car is in gear, it WILL NOT start. Unless the installer disabled the bypass which will never be done by a shop ( only if he installed himself ). I've had starters in all my standards and never had any issues. The MK4 jetta is a hard one, and most places won't do it but there are some that will. 600-1000 is ballpark for one way or 2way starters. Starters are great for winter, summer (AC) and for turbo timers.......
              Don't Panic, I'm Hispanic

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              • #22
                Re: Car starters

                First off, thanks everyone for your inputs. The biggest reason why I wanted a car starter was so that when I'm at the university studying until 2am I want to be able to start the car a few times through the night to make sure it ends up starting when I want to leave. It'd also be nice for the windows to be defrosted when I get to the car.


                Originally posted by dJ View Post
                That thing is a waste of money. Grab a 1500 watt Zerostart from Gregs. It's $60 and your car will start up with full heat at -40. Much better block heater.
                Originally posted by Benjamin View Post
                The TDIheater, or whatever they call it now is only 750 watt, I had one in my car till about a few weeks ago. Did a few winters with it, but the 1500 watt one is where it is at.

                Ben
                Are you guys talking about the same thing here? I'm pretty much only concerned about the car actually starting in the middle of winter and would be nice if the windows were already slightly defrosted.

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                • #23
                  Re: Car starters

                  Either the frostheater or the zerostart are the best options. 90% of residential and commercial parking spaces in Calgary have plugs. Your window will defrost in 2 minutes and because they have a small pump in them sometimes it will circulate enough to prevent frosting. Best option bar none. No need for fancy dancy car starters.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Car starters

                    Originally posted by CGDoig View Post
                    My car starts fine and along with our Christmas lights my electricity bill is lower
                    Well most Calgary homes now have two circuits, one for lights, one for outdoor plugs. The cost difference for electricity following this forumula, 10 days @ -30`C (typically how many of those nights a year) 4 hours turn on before you start = a massive $3.00 total in extra power used for all 10 nights. Considering you will probably save $30 by getting it local, you have 10 years of a warmer car before that extra $3 will really hurt you.

                    Here is where you get this

                    http://www.greggdistributors.ca/catalogue.htm

                    Part Number
                    330-8003

                    If this is plugged in at the university you won't even notice the power bill.

                    In terms of having your windows defrosted, you just need to leave the heater controls on full defroster with full heat. Car off, but the heat from the circulating heater will heat the core and hot air rises which hits your windshield.
                    Ben
                    2016 Ram 3500 Laramie
                    2000 Jetta TDi, Dead and removing parts
                    2005 Passat Wagon TDi, 310,000 km's and counting, BSM delete done....Trans died going to replace
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                    • #25
                      Re: Car starters

                      My car has a hell of a time starting at -5. After that stupid glow plug recall it hasn't been good since. I need to call them back and find out what thru can do Noe that it's supposedly figured out.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Car starters

                        Hey all, I work for FS in Medicine Hat and have quite a bit of experience with pretty much every model of VW in regards to car starters.

                        First of all, I have never heard of a properly installed remote starter, starting in gear. Every case so far has been some douche putting an auto tranny starter in a manual car. For example the Mustang that was referenced earlier was a few year old Viper starter that is not manual transmission capable. If you read the 40 page thread on the Mustang forum, the owner of the car self installed the starter and bypassed every form of safety built into the unit.

                        As for how hard they are to put in a MKIV, they are not that hard. I have probably done about 40 or so MKIV's and they are not that hard, and only slightly more time consuming than most cars.

                        I have also experienced hit and miss on TDI's as far as them heating up. I have only done about 15 or so TDI's but not one client has come back complaining, but I do warn them that the heater might not get real warm until they start driving. All of them did have heated seats though.

                        A few things to keep in mind is that you will need to sacrifice the valet key, and the factory remote doesn't work while the car is running so if you get one installed make sure to get at least the door locks hooked up as well.

                        If you have any more questions I would be happy to answer.

                        Oh and besides myself a few places I would for sure recommend would be Mobile Solutions of Calgary, and Shaughn Murley at Visions Red Deer.
                        15 GTI
                        65 Beetle
                        87 BMW E30

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