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    How’s this for a fast start to the New Year? Honda has let its Civic Type R off the leash exclusively for Auto Express. And what better way to welcome it to 2007 than to introduce it to VW’s most powerful Golf GTI ever, the 227bhp Edition 30?

    Engineers have aimed for a focused feel, which will please existing Type R fans, while adding a new level of user-friendliness and a few creature comforts.

    Set to be the biggest showdown of the year, the clash of the performance legends gets underway in March, when the British-built Type R goes on sale.

    Expected to cost £18,000, and pack-ing an improved version of the maker’s famed 2.0-litre i-VTEC engine, the new charger aims to broaden the Type R’s appeal. Which means its sights are set on VW’s GTI. Why? Well, Honda recognises that the last hot Civic wasn’t to all tastes. Although its high-revving engine delivered thrills aplenty, the super-Civic could be as uncompromising as it was unforgiving. It was a hard car to relax in if you didn’t want a wild ride.

    And this is something the GTI has licked. Driving from London up to Edinburgh? No problem. Fancy an early morning cross-country blast? Jump in. Look-ing to impress in the company car park? Consider it done. Unless track days are your thing, the Golf ticks all the boxes.

    Especially in Edition 30 guise. With its increased pace, courtesy of an uprated 2.0-litre TFSI engine, the 30th anniversary GTI turns up the heat on rivals even more. So how does the all-new Type R compare when the two square up?

    Seeing the hot hatches side-by-side confirms the Honda packs more visual impact than its rival. Its low nose, swept-back lights and tarmac-scraping airdam give a more aggressive stance. There’s no missing the new colour-coded rear wing, either; subtle it isn’t. It fills your view of the road behind from the moment you settle into the driver’s chair.

    Deep bucket seats finished in black Alcantara trim, complete with bright red stitching, hold you tightly in place. Turn the ignition and the dark black instrument pod glows a moody red, hinting at the Type R’s devilish character.

    The central analogue rev counter dominates your line of vision, while on the second shelf above, the speedo is flanked by a glowing Type R logo and race car-style LED shift-up lights. These come into play at 5,200rpm, illuminating every 200rpm up to 8,000rpm.

    The seat is low slung, the drilled alloy pedals ideally spaced for serious driving and the three-spoke steering wheel adjusts for a perfect ‘stretched legs, bent arms’ position. All you want to do is hit the red ‘Engine Start’ button...

    By contrast, the GTI’s dash is clear and concise. It doesn’t scream excitement, plus you sit higher at the wheel and don’t feel a part of the car, as you do in the Civic. One thing’s for sure; the old Type R’s awkward, upright driving position has been banished for good.

    With its unique sports suspension set-up, widened track, larger brakes and 225/40 ZR18 Bridgestone Potenza tyres, plus a new stability control system, the Honda is said to strike a better blend between track day kerb-hopping and supermarket trolley shopping.

    Significantly, its 2.0-litre i-VTEC unit has been reworked to deliver its torque lower in the range. The high-lift valve timing comes in at 5,200rpm, yet still thrives on revs up to 8,000rpm – the point at which all 198bhp is unleashed. Lower gearing and a shift action that’s better than ever offset the minor weight increase to keep the Type R competitive with the GTI. The 0-62mph sprint is said to take 6.6 seconds, while top speed is still 146mph – that’s every bit as quick as VW claims the Edition 30 is.

    Engineers have aimed for a focused feel, which will please existing Type R fans, while adding a new level of user-friendliness and a few creature comforts. You can finally order the likes of sat-nav, plus phone and MP3 connectivity, or opt for the plusher GT spec, which is likely to nudge past the £20,000 mark.

    The only question is whether Honda has managed to preserve the magic of the original out on the road – and we’ll be able to answer that later this month.







    Blair
    Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

  • #2
    Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

    Bring on the rice!
    Type R's back end is just hideous!
    Exhuast tips..
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    • #3
      Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

      ya that honda is ugggggggggly, vw ftw
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        Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

        I like the front end of the civic but the rear end looks like J-lo's big booty on acid. I think the GTI is a way more classy refined sport look which should make it the clear winner.
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        • #5
          Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

          I agree the back of the Type R is odd looking. But the front is nicer than the Gti IMO.

          The interior of the Euro Type R is way nicer than the Si we get here looks like. Why can't they sell it here? I am sure there is a market for it.

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          • #6
            Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

            I love the front end and the side profile of the Civic, however the rear is terrible. The GTI kinda looks boring next to the Civic thou.
            Tint sucks

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            • #7
              Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

              Originally posted by Duby T View Post
              I love the front end and the side profile of the Civic, however the rear is terrible. The GTI kinda looks boring next to the Civic thou.
              Well said, I agree completely
              Blair
              Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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              • #8
                Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

                uuuuuuuuuuuuugly honda
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                • #9
                  Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

                  i lovethe inside of the type r
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                  • #10
                    Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

                    yea the honda interior isn't bad looking but it may be cheap compared to vw once you get into it

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                    • #11
                      Re: GTI Edition 30 vs Civic Type R

                      yes it is bad looking.
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