Considering the Dark Side

[nephilim]

Re: Considering the Dark Side

Wait for the new mitsubishi eclipses to come out, damn boy thats a sweet looking car!

[Smartiepants]

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Wait for the new mitsubishi eclipses to come out, damn boy thats a sweet looking car!

Out of teh price range

[Kor]

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They're like 26ish US so I am guessing a new eclipse will be 32K + fees and tax. Looks like a very nice car, big big (3.8L) engine.

[Aleks]

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I also looked at a few cars before I bought the VW, an RSX tS, a celica GT-S, kind of everything in the performance range, I truly thought the VW was the only contender out of the box wise, of course I had little ambition of modding until all the peer pressure around here changed my mind.....regardless, I out dyno'd a stock RSX-S as well......nice looking doorstop though! I would buy a mazdaspeed protege, or an SRT-4, or even a cobalt SS before an RSX.....

[NeonGTI]

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Car and Driver did a test of the new Eclipse a couple months back and they said it was more boring than the last gen. It was moderately faster but they said the engine felt weak considering what it was advertised to be.

If only they would go back to turbos they could get another cult following going outside of the EVO's.

They're like 26ish US so I am guessing a new eclipse will be 32K + fees and tax. Looks like a very nice car, big big (3.8L) engine.

[Kor]

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For a 3.8L it is pretty weak... but still I find it hard to believe that it was boring!

[VRado6]

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Keep in mind the new eclipse weights 3600lbs. That tends to put a damper on performance.

[Simon]

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if I had a choice between an RSX-S and my golf stock, I would take the RSX-S.

better stock looks, better stock performance, better stock handling. who cares if you can mod the VW perform well, you can do the same to a RSX right? However, the golf was in my price range and Im glad I made the decision.

[James]

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if I had a choice between an RSX-S and my golf stock, I would take the RSX-S.

better stock looks, better stock performance, better stock handling. who cares if you can mod the VW perform well, you can do the same to a RSX right? However, the golf was in my price range and Im glad I made the decision.

True, but if I can mod a RSX to go fast I can mod a 1989 5.0mustang to rape an RSX...its still a '89Rustang...just like the RSX is still a civic.

Also, the RSX might have better stock performance than a 150hp 1.8t but the 180 could take it stock for stock.

[Smartiepants]

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I doubt it, the car is 300 lbs lighter and has more power, from my research, stock for stock the rsx is faster

[James]

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300 LB isnt enough difference to make up for the RSX's supreme lack of tq,IMO. Id put a chipped TDI up against an RSX for the first 3 gears casue of how little tq the rsx has, like they say HP is how fast you can go, TQ is how fast you can get there, how often do you open up the top end of your car? Not often Id wager

[Kor]

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The stock RSX is a little faster its true. Plenty of cars are faster stock, even in your price range, so if performance is your primary concern, I think its silly to say a Golf is the fastest car!

[James]

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well, ya, if this is 100% preformance based then get a friggin SRT-4...thems shits is fast

[Silverstoned]

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Like most others here, I considered the RSX prior to getting my golf. The thing you have to look at when talking about power/hp is useability. I don't know about you, but I'm not confident enough in my driving ability to keep the tach within 2-300 rpm of redline. That is the only way you're going to get the published hp and torque Acura supplies. Look at the @rpm figures, then go look at where the redline is on the tach. When driving in the 3-6k RPM range, I'd guess the hp is more like 100 and torque about 75. It does handle better, but reduced rear view, lack of trunk space, and back seats for midgets are all big +s in favour of the GTI.

Jeff

[Aleks]

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Wow, look who came back to join the party! Long time Jeff! Anyhow, back to the discussion, I still don't think the RSX in stock form is faster......Plus, in terms of moddability to get the RSX to fast (I mean fast), you need to do some form of forced induction, and theres no way you're gonna get that as cheap as the 1.8t......Now, you want a fast cheap car, do up a civic with a b22 out of a CRX and a t3/t04e, hondata etc. you have a cheap fast car......good luck....