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    It has been mentioned in a few threads but perhaps the time has come to put our thoughts, comments and experiences on the electric vehicle world into a single place.

    I will get us started with this information on Dyson's EV project:

    Rumors about Dyson’s plan to engineer an electric vehicle have been swirling around the Internet for quite some time and these were fueled in April 2016 by UK's National Infrastructure Delivery Plan decision to grant the company with funding to develop a new EV. Now, it’s officially official as Sir James Dyson has pledged to invest £2 billion (almost $2.7B) to have a fully electric vehicle available by 2020.

    More than 400 people are already working on the ambitious project and that number is set to grow considerably in the near future as Dyson is “recruiting aggressively.” Little else is known about the EV, but apparently it has been under development for approximately two and a half years and half of the money is being put to good use into the development of the batteries, which will be of the solid state type.

    When it will eventually arrive, it’s going to be a dream come true for Dyson as the vacuum cleaner manufacturer has had an EV at the back of its mind for close to two decades. Rather than teaming up with an existing automaker to speed up the process, Dyson is riding solo on this project as the company’s founder believes current car manufacturers don’t have anything useful they could bring to the table.

    In an interview with Auto Express, Sir James Dyson promised the team is trying to come up with something radical with a design that will stand out from the current crop of EVs: “There’s no point in doing one that looks like everyone else’s.” He went on to specify it won’t be a sports car, but at the same time it’s not going to be an affordable EV like the Nissan Leaf.

    The company still has a long way to go as it currently doesn’t have a prototype, nor does it know where it will actually build the car. The goal is to assemble the EV at the same location where the batteries are going to be manufactured as that would be the smartest decision from a logistical point of view.

    To make it happen, Dyson has already hired several high-ranked Aston Martin employees in the last year and a half, such as ex product development boss Ian Minards. BMW board member Ian Robertson could also join the growing team, though nothing is set in stone at this point. He’s already with Dyson by occupying a board position within the company, but his role doesn’t have anything to do with the EV project, yet.

    The EV pinned for a 2020 launch is only the tip of the iceberg as a lineup of electric cars is being analyzed since Dyson believes it can ultimately be more profitable than the firm’s other products.
    Blair
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    Re: The EV Car Thread

    Originally posted by Canadian Turbo View Post
    Rather than teaming up with an existing automaker to speed up the process, Dyson is riding solo on this project as the company’s founder believes current car manufacturers don’t have anything useful they could bring to the table.

    To make it happen, Dyson has already hired several high-ranked Aston Martin employees in the last year and a half, such as ex product development boss Ian Minards. BMW board member Ian Robertson could also join the growing team, though nothing is set in stone at this point. He’s already with Dyson by occupying a board position within the company, but his role doesn’t have anything to do with the EV project, yet.
    Other manufacturers don't have anything useful, but their employees would sure help........
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    • #3
      Re: The EV Car Thread

      Companies that will have at least one long range electric car on the market by 2020:
      • Tesla sells the model S, X and 3. Model 3, the company's first model aimed for the mass market, was unveiled in March 2016. A week after the unveiling, global reservations totaled 325,000 units, representing potential sales of over US$14 billion.
      • Faraday Future launched its first fully electric vehicle in 2017, with the possibility of producing a larger range of vehicles over time. Preorders currently total 64,000 and deliveries will begin in 2018. However the company is plagued by financial issues and hasn't secured a factory yet.
      • Volvo will electrify its entire vehicle line by 2019, with five all-electric models slated to roll out from 2019 to 2021. The automaker hopes to sell one million of the electric and hybrid cars by 2025.
      • GM said it plans to phase out gas-powered vehicles for an "all-electric future" but didn't give an exact date for an all-EV line. The effort starts, however, with plans for 20 all-electric vehicles by 2023.
      • VW Group, parent of European automakers like Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche, will invest $84 billion in EV development. Roughly $60 billion of the total will be dedicated to battery production, but the company also plans to offer electric and hybrid versions of 300 vehicles by 2030.
      • Daimler, the parent company of Mercedes-Benz, will invest $1 billion in an Alabama plant to produce all-electric SUVs and build a battery facility, and $10 billion in EV development overall. Mercedes-Benz outlined a plan to electrify its "entire portfolio" by 2022, offering 50 electric and hybrid models.
      • Ford created the EV-dedicated "Team Edison" to focus on the development of all-electric cars. The automaker also pledged to invest $4.5 billion over five years on new all-electric and hybrid vehicles, with 13 new models slated for release by 2023.
      • Renault, Nissan, and Mitsubishi alliance will work together to develop new systems to use across their vehicle lines, with a focus on "purely electric" EVs like the Nissan Leaf. The automakers plan to release 12 all-electric models by 2022.
      • Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) plans to electrify its entire vehicle lineup by 2020, with new powertrains ranging from mild hybrid vehicles to all-electric systems. (Electric sedan in 2019)
      • Toyota and Mazda recently announced that they're teaming up with auto-parts manufacturer Senso to create a new company to develop basic EV technology for use across multiple vehicle types and models, expanding beyond Toyota's Prius line. The two Japanese carmakers also pledged to build a $1.6 billion U.S.-based plant by 2021, where they'll work on electric and hybrid vehicles.
      • Porsche has the Mission E set to be released in 2019.
      • Aston Martin
      • Hyundai
      • Citroen
      • Chevrolet
      • Apple
      • Dyson



      Countries banning vehicles with only combustion engines:
      Norway - 2025
      India - 2030
      France - 2040
      Britain - 2040
      China - N/A
      Germany - N/A
      Netherlands - N/A
      USA California - N/A

      Austria, China, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Japan, the Netherlands, Portugal, Korea and Spain have already set official targets for minimum electric car sales.
      Last edited by witchcraftz; 10-04-2017, 10:22 AM.

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        The importance of the Chinese market cannot be forgotten when it comes to EVs, there are already 75 EV models available in that market and sales are in the hundreds of thousands already. That kind of success could really fuel (pun intended) some changes to the EV landscape. Tesla is everywhere in Hong Kong, I mean everywhere, but as soon as you cross into mainland China they become a very rare sight, they are also big on pushing buses and commercial vehicles into EV options as well.
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          I love this media crap about no combustion engines. It means non 100% combustion powered vehicles aka. hybrids. not 100% EV ****.
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            Correct these bans are for 100% fossil fueled cars. Hybrids are not banned.
            This means there will be a giant surge in charging stations everywhere, that infrastructure will support more people going to fully electric cars.


            Secret Dyson car prototype.

            Last edited by witchcraftz; 09-28-2017, 10:48 AM.

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            • #7
              Re: The EV Car Thread

              Originally posted by witchcraftz View Post
              Correct these bans are for 100% fossil fueled cars. Hybrids are not banned.
              This means there will be a giant surge in charging stations everywhere, that infrastructure will support more people going to fully electric cars.


              Secret Dyson car prototype.

              That car sucks...
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              • #8
                Re: The EV Car Thread

                But we'll have cleaner streets....

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                • #9
                  Re: The EV Car Thread

                  Always interesting when EV's start being discussed. The rapid charger from Tesla requires a 200 amp service - anyone with a house in an older community likely has a 100 amp service... and in many cases the neighbourhoods do not have the required infrastructure to do an upgrade. A 100 amp service will work it will just take longer to charge. Another bit of food for thought with the push to "green" energy is the supply demand etc... what happens when everyone gets home from work and starts cooking, doing laundry, running their dishwasher, turns on some lights (hopefully led by now) and then plugs in their car that will need 5-8 hours to charge... the peak demand could potentially force rolling blackouts etc because not very many people are willing to do things differently - and I doubt most employers are going to pay to charge your car unless you work for Google. I believe the technology needs to be developed but there is a lot more to it than just going out and buying your car - I wonder where the batteries go in 5-7 years?
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                  • #10
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                    EVs eh?

                    https://youtu.be/7hdVw6XwK1A


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                      Originally posted by Deuce View Post
                      EVs eh?

                      https://youtu.be/7hdVw6XwK1A


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                      Nice and fun it seems . With 0 to 210km/h in 10 secondes it could be a lot of fun.

                      I'll take one and 5 spare battery packs....

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                      • #12
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                        Realistically the battery tech is what's holding us back. But the future looks like it's around the corner.

                        http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1303...r-over-the-air

                        And this is very promising.

                        https://www.wired.com/story/bill-joy...jesus-battery/

                        Last edited by witchcraftz; 10-02-2017, 09:55 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The EV Car Thread

                          Well this is where a company like Dyson might be a big help, battery tech and thinking outside the traditional automotive box.

                          We do have to remember we are possibly just trading one evil for another, sure less fossil fuels being burned but electricity is not 100% green yet and things like cobalt for batteries is having serious issues in a country like the Congo, the primary global source.
                          Blair
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                          • #14
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                            Not to mention Bolivia, where the vast majority of the world's supply of lithium is found.

                            Wonder what the health, safety and environmental regulations are like over there?
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                              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ell-Earth.html
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