Quebec: "Hellaflush" is not road legal anymore

[JVD]

Re: Quebec: "Hellaflush" is not road legal anymore

This.

Come to think of it, if you look into the Alberta highway and traffic safety act the code says you can't have a modified exhaust tip larger in diameter than was supplied from the factory. I found that gem while looking up noise bylaws. Anyone ever hear of that being enforced? lol

There's also something about minimum 4" ground clearance? I could be wrong about that measurement, but there is something about minimum clearance.

I think it comes down to how knowledgeable the officer is, said individual's mood/temperament and the situation surrounding Johnny Law to be scoping someone out in the first place. If you're some sketchy character and they want to nail you but have very little to go on, or they want to throw the book at you... look out. Otherwise, it's a pass.

I believe they refer to it as "enlarged outlet."

A couple years ago I was pulled over for "excessive noise." When I asked the officer if he was going to use an SPL meter on the exhaust he lost it and told me how he doesn't need to and it's his discretion. Apparently asking a question about the bylaw is considered to be "confrontational." When the officer came back after taking my information he told me he was now giving me TWO tickets; one for excessive noise and one for enlarged outlet.

If you read both of those bylaws you'll see that there are no definitive standards. They are both very ambiguous.

This HF law in Quebec seems quite similar. One of those that's only enforced when someone's having a bad day.

[R-Audi]

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Hope you fought those tickets.. they are apparently very easy to get out of.

[bobkatkat]

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... if you look into the Alberta highway and traffic safety act the code says you can't have a modified exhaust tip larger in diameter than was supplied from the factory.....

I think I will just re-badge to a more legal OEM equivalent.

[PRY4SNO]

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^^^ I LOLd in public.

Thanks for that. Winning.

[JVD]

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Hope you fought those tickets.. they are apparently very easy to get out of.

I ended up paying.

Work was too busy at the time. Sucked but it just wasn't worth it.

The cop even said "I'd really love for you to come to court because I'm really good at what I do." Lol. So sad.

[GingerBeef]

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I ended up paying.

Work was too busy at the time. Sucked but it just wasn't worth it.

The cop even said "I'd really love for you to come to court because I'm really good at what I do." Lol. So sad.

This cop sounds like the biggest asshat in the world...

[witchcraftz]

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Maybe it's the same guy who gave me ticket for doing 60 in a 50 zone, when it actually was 60 zone, and the day before I left for Japan so I couldn't contest it...

[dwvw]

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Most of the laws regarding lowering specify that if you get a flat that no suspension or underbody parts will contact the pavement before the rim does AFAIK.

[R_Ethug]

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welcome to nazi germany.. wtf

i bet it doesn't really matter to much but who knows

[100%VAGitarian]

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normally something would be made law if it benefits the greater good of society, and/or reduces violence/increases safety. unless there have been a rash of accidents attributed to someone's modifications, it really serves no purpose other than to generate income for the state, ie: cash grab/we hate people doing things different from the rest of us. i haven't seen anything cited for the reasons to implement this so really all it does is further canadians hatred towards quebec, as well as point out how stupid elected officials really are. also, how does my suspension geometry have any effect on some guy who runs a red light and t-bones me, vs. my insurance coverage? that whole article seems like it was pulled from wiki, with absolutely no knowledge of cars. do they not realize that all those components wear out, even on a non modified car? many people drive around with shot wheel bearings, slow leaks in tires, and overall poorly maintained vehicles, which are a much worse hazard than someone who has taken the time to drop their car the proper way. people have been modifying cars since the day they were invented. why is it only becoming an issue now? i would just take the ticket and show up in court with my proper alignment specs, and other articles citing the benefits of increased handling and other R&D type info i could gather from manufacturers to humiliate the cop who gave out the ticket. i have had my fair share of tickets for various things and any chance i get to prove cops wrong, i will take.

[witchcraftz]

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It's okay to be pissed off at one cop because they were a jerk, but don't hate them all, most are just doing their jobs.

In all honesty, how on earth is an officer going to know if your exhaust is a larger diameter or your car is lowered? I think they have better things to do with their time than memorizing all the specs for all the cars that exist.

This law is to curb people's excess because as long as there's no rule, people push boundaries, the only problem I have with it is that it's the insurance companies that are going to decide if you have modified beyond OEM the suspension of your car.

And in all reality it's going to be a big battle in court for an insurance company to do this to cars that are within certain limits. For example let's say I put the GLI suspension in my TDI. The suspension is OEM even though it's not meant for a TDI, is this going to get me hit? What if I installed Monroe shocks instead of the VW OEM ones? What if my springs are worn out and that's why my car is low? How could they even get most of this to stick in court?

[dwvw]

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The laws that prevent any suspension/body parts from hitting the pavement in the case of a flat tire are to stop the vehicle from tearing up the roads in the case of a blow out.

[jacktown]

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