Drill Attached Buffer?

[CGDoig]

Has anyone ever used one with good results? I don't have enough cash to purchase a good quality random orbital. Also I have to buy my detailing stuff from crappy tire today. What would everyone suggest for a polish and wax product from there?

[onceover]

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Autoglym if you must get stuf from Canadian tire.

Save the money for the drill attachment and put it towards a buffer

[Kor]

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No man don't use that drill thing on your car's paint

If you can't afford like a Porta-cable you can get a cheap orbital polisher from walmart.

I used to have this turtlewax brand one that I bought for under $20 and with microfiber bonnets it was pretty good.

For wax and polish seriously stop by Carzilla on 16th ave they have the best stuff at a range of prices. They can also help you pick the right polish for your goals and equipment.

[CGDoig]

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OK thanks Pat. Problem for me is I go back to work on Thursday until Saturday. So I gotta get the car done before tomorrow night. I know it seems like a lot of time but I have my little guy this week and his form of "helping" isn't the best lol.

[stefan]

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Question that is sort of related...
What causes the permanent swirls and holography looking effects you sometimes see in cars, especially black ones? I assume it is something to do with improper polishing. I'm always worried I will cause this but really don't know what one does to make it happen!

[CGDoig]

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Stefan I think its more caused be the washing process itself more than anything. The two bucket method is key, black cars especially.

[GINCH]

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Actually the hollogram you see so often on black cars is from someone that doesn't know what they are doing using an orbital buffer. From what I understand, a DA (dual action) polisher is your best friend if you do not have the skills required to polish properly!

[onceover]

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Even the pros use Dual Action. Rotary polishers are only for serious paint correction

[P Arkus]

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Dual action buffers are the ones that just go back and forth spinning (about 30 degrees one way, then back) right?

[onceover]

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Negatory: http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html

[Bucky]

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Question that is sort of related...
What causes the permanent swirls and holography looking effects you sometimes see in cars, especially black ones? I assume it is something to do with improper polishing. I'm always worried I will cause this but really don't know what one does to make it happen!

Swirls can most often be caused by improper washing, as stated earlier. Like CGDoing said, the two bucket method is key. Another way swirls are caused, is by improper drying of the car. Any missed dirt can scratch the clear coat. Using a waffle weave or damp microfiber towel, lifts the dirt away and can cause less swirls. Chamois are dragged along the surface, so anything caught under that while drying will scratch . DA(Dual action) polisher like Porter cable 7424xp or rupes are popular options. Depends on how bad the swirls are and the hardness/softness of the paint. Different stages of cutting pads to slowly bring the paint back to perfect can be achieved with some time and effort. The drill method is good for smaller areas and use 4" pads. It's typically used for deeper scratches that a dual action polisher can't remove.

[P Arkus]

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Good to know. Thanks for the link Pat!

[RONDAL]

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those deep swirls are from people using buffers and using them improperly. too much heat can cause issues in the paint which give you some really nasty hologram effect and deep swirl like marks.
you can do a lot of damage with power tools if you use them improperly.

[Kor]

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For sure a cheap orbital buffer can cause swirls and DA is better - that's why I upgraded to DA too.

But it doesn't mean orbital will always cause swirls. If you are using a completely clean microfiber cloth bonnet on completely clean paint, and only using the buffer for the fine/finishing stage I have never had a problem with swirls even on a black car with the cheap orbital buffer.

That does not mean I would use a drill attachment though, that is not cool, it will just not give you enough control and you will probably end up making a mess.

I think the swirls come in when the car or bonnet is not 100% clean or people are using it with coarse abrasive polish products, or cheap bonnets... then it causes that swirl pattern. If you don't have a DA polisher you can't use a polish with those kinds of abrasives... stick to finishing products.

Look for labels with words like "machine glaze" or "light" "haze remover" "swirl remover". NEVER use a polish that has a label like "cutting" "medium duty" "heavy duty" "scrach remover" "auto body shop" etc with a cheap polisher.

[Danaldson]

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i used one of those little orbitals on my car this summer, and i think it worked great. now the question is? foam or micro fibre pads?