Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

[RONDAL]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

you know why we have shitty roads.

two words



PEACE BRIDGE

[J-hop]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

def not a city worker haha, just don't understand where people are coming from I guess, I've been driving this city for 8 years now and never had any problems. In relation to your response our road was dug up about 10 years ago and rebuilt using a different insulating technique (our street is the last one in our neighborhood to have the snow melt off because of the great insulation job done) but still it heaves every year. The only solution to the problem would be to relocate the roadway through someones back yard which isn't feasible. So no matter the precautions taken you can't always fight nature. You also have to look at the fact that roads will expand and contract at different rates then the surrounding soil which also causes these cracks to form, and this is impossible to prevent unless we were to asphalt everything in town.

I admit the truck issue is bad, you used to not even have to steer on 16th ave because the ruts were so deep, but at the same time we don't want to bite the hand that feeds us right????

[Mister T]

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i drove across manitoba even, which employees peeps!! and they don't even leave a lip.

Whoo boy

[Wildfire]

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Quality thread....Can I sneak in and say that I actually like the roads here, they are pretty good and that I think city workers actually get **** done....

[gaffer]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

I am a city worker and I will add my 2 cents.

- Deerfoot trial is maintained & cared for by the Province of Alberta, not CoC. That is why you may see little signs around that say "End Deerfoot Maintenance" Complain to them about the lip.

- You make no sense. First you say you want smooth roads, but complain about the work when they are doing it. We can all agree that deerfoot needs to be paved, and it will be nice when it is done, but there will be some pain in the meantime. The weather has been crap this summer and it has been raining for the last week making paving miserable at best, impossible at worst.

- You chose to lower your car and run big rims. Gotta pay the cost to be the boss. I dont think you would get much sympathy from the City, Province etc.

If you really dont like it you still have time to get you nomination in for mayor or alderman.

Andrew

[aliencurv]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

anyone who defended the city (j-hop & gaffer), obviously didn't read my post. in one evening, a truck with asphalt and a portable weight roller could fix every major roadway pot hole. they do it in every other province correctly with less of a budget.

the problem is not with baby sitting. the problem is not with needing to spend more money. the problem merely lies in the fact that no one has ever said anything. how can anyone think something is wrong if no one speaks up?

and when someone like me gets pissed, it's hilarious to read a comment with a "frost" response lol. as if that excuse isn't over played yet. who ever uses the frost excuse lacks the ability to think for themself and ask "hey does that make sense? Or am i just regurgitating garbage like the parrot painted sheep i am?"

you want to talk about frost? why not visit the regions of the great lakes and lake of the woods.

this has nothing to do with frost. this has everything to do with the INABILITY to perform that SIMPLIST blue collar job known to man: BUILD ROADS.

jesus, landscaping requires more intellegence then paving/re-paving a road.. As calgary as already proven for us.

[Stonewall]

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As the Romans, I hear they have been paving roads for ages...

[niXon]

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Lets be serious here, people who drastically modify cars (I'm talking mainly suspension here) are in the minority. The vast majority of the general public is driving completely stock vehicles that have no problems with the 3" lip caused by road grading, or the expension joints on bridge decks.

I daily drove a stupidly low MK2 for 3 years so I fully understand your gripes with the roads. Just recently I've gotten into a completely stock vehicle, and have had absolutely no problems with the roads. Sure some spots are a little rough, but I've never had to "modify" the route I travel.

[p951]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

Call 311 and complain, it worked for me last spring when a nice big pothole formed on the corner of Nose Hill Drive and Scenic Acres Blvd. They fixed it (well) within a couple of weeks when they got to it on the list.

Hell, you can even fill out a pothole repair request online and it'll get done.

Oh, BTW, I visited my brother in Toronto this summer and the roads there were (and still are) MUCH MUCH WORSE! I couldn't believe how badly Toronto let their infrastructure deteriorate (and my brother pays about 4X the taxes for the same size/cost house as we do here). It's all about priorities, Toronto is now "social engineering" to make it worse for cars in the city, it's a disaster.

[R_Ethug]

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did nobody read my last post

some of the lips left from cutting pavement down or leaving a new lip up

you'd EASILY BEND/****/MUNT any stock 17-20" wheel on a nissan maxima, ford truck, SUV, genesis, a4, s4,etc

its not rocket science to make the roads decent..

like i said once deerfoot paving is complete i'll buy anyone a steak dinner in 3 years (granted i'm still living here then) that they are back at it again!

**** they just repaved it 2 years ago.. good job guys good job

[Canadian Turbo]

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Please ease up on the racial remarks in this one.

Planning has never been this cities strong point (and could get worse if certain people get elected IMO) but I do agree with all points that things could be improved and also that we are in the minority with our cars. That being said I have been to Edmonton twice this summer and their roads are pretty brutal in places and have tonnes of construction going on to, just the issue with a limited work season, even when the weather is good. Though I did drive down some streets in ETown that have concrete pads laid at bus stops which would help with rutting as we see here so even they have thought things out more than us!

However I only have a few more months to deal with it!!!

[R-Audi]

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However I only have a few more months to deal with it!!!

Jerkiest comment of the whole thread!

jk


I dont know about anyone else, but if I see a 2"+ lip formed from paving, and my tire sidewall is less then 2" its not that tough to do the math!

The roads arent great.. but as many others have said, its part of living in this weather system. Its tough to have something that will react the same in 40 to -40 degree weather. Then again its much easier to complain on the internet then it is to actually do something about it... (call 311... fill out the forms to have it repaired etc)

PS. TSW.. The Soft Wheel? I think TSW's bend if you sneeze at them!

[RONDAL]

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still i go back to the argument of the weather here.

WE KNOW THE WEATHER HERE. SO WHY DONT WE BUILD FOR IT?

cracks and potholes form because moisture gets into small uneven surfaces or where there are ridges, and goes through the freeze thaw, freeze thaw process throughout the winter. How do you eliminate that?
You build roads properly, paving the tops PROPERLY to ensure there is no voids for moisture to get into and start the process.

Someone...ANYONE...drive down 4th ave SW from 1st St E to 5th st W and look at the piss poor job they've done of "patching". they dug up a road that was otherwise pretty good, and now repatched it. They didn't even get the patch smooth or back to level. So its ALREADY pooched. Now we;re going to subject it to a few winters and hope it holds? please.

IT IS A JOKE.

[gaffer]

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I guess I am a sheep, but here is my expanation for some of the problems with Calgary roads.

Calgary has a very unique climate, unlike any of that in Canada with our chinooks and constant freeze that cycles. In general, in other parts of Canada the roads either freeze completely for the entire winter and remain stable, or in the case of the GVR they dont freeze.

The constant freeze that cycles that we see in Calgary due to cold weather followed by chinooks and warm weather. With this, the roads are exposed to the equivelent of several years worth of freeze thaw in a single year. This wreaks havoc with roads, plants and other infrastructure.

As for the inability for people to do a simple blue collar job of building roads, almost all of this work is contracted out to large national paving companies that do paving in every other city in the country.

Finally, if you feel you can "simply' fix every pothole in the City in an evening with less money perhaps you should start a company and put in a proposal to the City. If the problem is as bad as you say you would be rich in no time.

I will repeat my other point too. If you think that it is that bad stop spouting off on the internet and run for Mayor or Alderman and solve the problem. At the very least, call 311 to express your views & ideas. There are only so many crystal balls in the City's posession and I guess the roads does not have one.

Andrew

[Stonewall]

Re: Is there anything we can do to smarten up the city?

I dont know about anyone else, but if I see a 2"+ lip formed from paving, and my tire sidewall is less then 2" its not that tough to do the math!

I don't get out and measure it anymore after what happened last time....