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  • Europe to ban "fast" cars?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Gw8&refer=home

    July 10 (Bloomberg) -- If one of the more extreme responses to global warming comes true, driving a sports car anywhere but on a racetrack might be relegated to history's dustbin.

    Fast, powerful cars within a few years may be outlawed in Europe, an idea that has been raised ostensibly because Ferraris and Porsches produce too much carbon dioxide. For those who abhor sports cars as vulgar symbols of affluence (along with vacation homes, furs and fancy jewelry), such a ban could be a two-fer: Saving the planet while cutting economic inequality.

    Who are these people anyway who decide on behalf of everyone what car is proper to drive? In the U.S. they're members of Congress, which is considering fuel-efficiency standards that will affect vehicle size. In Europe, it's the ministers and parliamentarians of the European Union, which wants to limit how much CO2 cars can emit as a proxy for a fuel- consumption standard.

    Chris Davies, a British member of the European Parliament, is proposing one of the most-extreme measures -- a prohibition on any car that goes faster than 162 kilometers (101 miles) an hour, a speed that everything from the humble Honda Civic on up can exceed. He ridiculed fast cars as ``boys' toys.''

    The proposed ban would take effect in 2013. Davies told the Guardian newspaper that ``cars designed to go at stupid speeds have to be built to withstand the effects of a crash at those speeds. They are heavier than necessary, less fuel-efficient and produce too many emissions.''

    His last point is telling, even though there are many reasons why cars are heavier, including safety measures such as air bags and steel-reinforced crumple zones.

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    The idea is to limit CO2, a so-called greenhouse gas blamed for causing the earth's temperature to rise.

    But the debate isn't just about how much carbon dioxide to allow into the atmosphere and whether the amount actually matters. It's also about disdain some hold for the size or speed of the cars others drive.
    I'd like to make a statment!
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    2011 A5

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    Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

    IMO this wont ever happen...Tax the **** out of fast cars? Sure...But how many members of US congress and the EU parliment system drive Benzo's and BMW's do you figure?

    And my 91 accord could get up to 162km/h...so that standard is just ridiclous
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    • #3
      Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

      i think you should ban cars that CAN'T go 162....
      Stefan
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      • #4
        Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

        Originally posted by stefan View Post
        i think you should ban cars that CAN'T go 162....
        Hahaha
        I would be scared getting the blazer up to 162
        I'd like to make a statment!
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        2011 A5

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        • #5
          Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

          This came up in the US about a month ago too, some lobbyists were pushing the idea.

          Here is what will happen. 162mph electronic speed limit on new cars. They will still come with big polluting powerful engines built for acceleration.

          You will likely be able to disable the limit with an aftermarket software flash or data cable anyway.

          Many of the large engines that supposedly pollute the world are actually quite efficient at slower speeds and get good mileage when you're not "on it" anyway.
          KR
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          • #6
            Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

            Nnnoooooooooooo!!!!
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            2011 S5
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            • #7
              Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

              Exactly a silly idea as all companies will just put an electronic limiter on cars to control top speed, which can always be removed, just hope you don't get caught

              Smarts are limited to 135km/h from the factory, mine might go a little faster though, but 162 could be pushing it
              Blair
              Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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              • #8
                Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

                i always have to laugh that after you chip your car for better performance you GET better mileage.

                Ryan

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                • #9
                  Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

                  the new porsche's are amongst some of the cleanest burning engines in the world. Even at WOT and high speed they pollute less than 2 year old US produced SUV's.
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                    Re: Europe to ban "fast" cars?

                    Originally posted by RONDAL View Post
                    the new porsche's are amongst some of the cleanest burning engines in the world. Even at WOT and high speed they pollute less than 2 year old US produced SUV's.
                    Haha no kidding
                    Instead of worrying about the fast cars (which most people seem to like wrapping around poles lately) they should focus on the big gas guzzlers that are driving around the hills of Hollywood. Thats the real crime here!
                    -Drew
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