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  • DSG...a thing of the past?

    I read an interesting article on RS6.com and thought that I would share. It seems as though this new and improved gearbox could be the greatest thing to hit the automotive industry in years! Apparently many large manufacturers have been testing the technology for a couple of years already and the results are amazing. In short, the energy a car wastes during braking is stored and than used again when needed...basically, in stop and go traffic, any vehicle using this technology will use a fraction of the fuel it used to because of the stored energy.

    It's a little long, but worth the read...

    Torotrak PLC
    05 June 2007


    Torotrak and Xtrac transmission expertise will help F1 teams develop new, highly
    efficient, mechanical kinetic energy recovery systems ... technology also
    applicable to road cars

    5 June 2007

    Toroidal traction drive specialist Torotrak plc and vehicle transmission design
    and manufacturing company Xtrac Ltd are pleased to announce that on 4 June 2007
    they entered into a licence agreement to enable Xtrac to develop highly
    efficient and compact continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) for use in the
    new kinetic energy recovery systems (KERS) proposed for Formula One ('F1') motor
    racing.

    In 2009, F1 is introducing new rules that will lower the environmental impact of
    the sport. Part of this is to recover deceleration energy that can be stored for
    acceleration. Xtrac will exploit Torotrak's full-toroidal traction drive
    technology for use in kinetic energy recovery systems within the motorsport
    industry, to assist its customers in meeting these new obligations.

    Commenting on the co-operation between the two companies, Peter Digby, managing
    director of Xtrac, said: 'The transfer of world-class transmission technology
    from Torotrak, combined with the added value of Xtrac's expertise in the design
    and manufacture of transmissions for motorsport - and with clear potential to
    feed the resulting technical solution back into mainstream automotive use - is a
    good example of what I believe FIA President Max Mosley had in mind when he
    announced that Formula One should embrace an energy efficient future and open up
    the world of motorsport to new manufacturers'.

    Dick Elsy, Chief Executive at Torotrak, added: 'We are delighted to be working
    with Xtrac on this exciting new application of our transmission technology, to
    provide a highly efficient KERS solution for initial application in motorsport,
    but with a clear opportunity to apply the system in mainstream road cars to
    provide performance, economy and greenhouse gas emission benefits.'

    Background

    Some of the new KERS systems under development will be mechanically based and
    will utilise a flywheel to recuperate, store and subsequently discharge a moving
    vehicle's kinetic energy, which is otherwise wasted when the vehicle is
    decelerated. The kinetic energy is stored during a braking manoeuvre and is then
    released back into the driveline as the vehicle accelerates.

    The toroidal traction drive variator, being developed with Torotrak and using
    Torotrak's patented technology, is a central element in these mechanical
    flywheel-variator KERS systems as it provides a continuously variable ratio
    connection between the flywheel and the vehicle driveline, via the vehicle's
    gearbox. Torotrak has granted a licence to Xtrac to design, manufacture,
    assemble and distribute components or complete variator systems, which
    incorporate Torotrak's technology, to its F1 customers.

    The innovative combination of a Torotrak variator - providing mechanical
    efficiency that should be in excess of 90 per cent - with a flywheel of advanced
    construction, results in a highly efficient and compact energy storage system.
    Whilst Xtrac will supply variator units to its customers, the flywheels for
    these energy recovery systems are being developed separately by the Formula 1
    teams themselves and their specialist suppliers. Torotrak will provide the
    control system expertise.

    Torotrak and Xtrac believe that the variator-flywheel solution provides a
    significantly more compact, efficient, lighter and environmentally-friendly
    solution than the traditional alternative of electrical-battery systems.

    'The variator weighs less than 5kg in these applications and provides a high
    level of mechanical efficiency, enabling the overall mass of the mechanical KERS
    systems to be minimised,' says Chris Greenwood, technology director at Torotrak.
    'This mechanical efficiency, combined with the variator's ability to change
    ratio very rapidly, helps to optimise flywheel performance.'

    The two companies consider that the system is applicable to other motor sports
    and everyday vehicles and see the potential for wider applications -
    particularly on high-performance road cars - as an aid to performance and also
    as a means of developing future products with reduced CO2 emission levels.

    The system supports the current trend in powertrain design for engine
    downsizing, by providing a means of boosting acceleration, overall performance
    and economy independently of the vehicle's engine and without the need for
    complex electrical-battery hybrid architectures.

    A CVT-controlled flywheel is particularly suited to stop-start driving
    situations when real-world fuel economy is often at its worst. In these
    conditions, the variator-flywheel system can assist the launch of a vehicle
    which has slowed down or come to a standstill, by utilising the kinetic energy
    stored in the flywheel. In heavily congested traffic, where a car is frequently
    stopped and restarted, the system can help alleviate the heavy fuel consumption
    and emissions of greenhouse gasses normally associated with these conditions.

    For the F1 applications, the stored kinetic energy can be applied by the driver
    on demand whenever required - at a rate and for a time period set by the
    regulations - to boost performance for rapid acceleration. The device is
    particularly beneficial when exiting corners or for tricky overtaking
    manoeuvres.

    'The mechanical efficiency, compactness and mass of the variator system is
    critical since it directly influences the size and the ability to package such
    as system into an F1 car, or into a road vehicle,' says Adrian Moore, technical
    director at Xtrac. 'The size, torque capacity and response of the unit is
    critical to take the full advantage of having a flywheel KERS system.'
    Kyle
    2000 Audi S4

  • #2
    Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

    CVT Transmissions are not new
    Regenerative breaking is not new
    Don't see how this relates to DSG
    KR
    Porsche 991 Carrera S

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    • #3
      Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

      I was referring to the F1-style shifting...which this new technology utilizes, much like DSG but with all these other benefits built in. You are right, CVT is not new, and neither is energy-stored braking...but they haven't been used together in mass production cars. Apparently this new technology is being slated for production in 2009 starting with Honda, Toyota, and Mitsubishi models. Hopefully that makes more sense
      Kyle
      2000 Audi S4

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      • #4
        Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

        I wonder how they are going to implement CVT into F1? Unless they are changing the rules it's illegal to have a CVT transmission, they have to have a delay between shifts. Most teams have it somewhere in the low milliseconds. I think there is actually a rule that states how short it's allowed to be.
        Jay

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        • #5
          Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

          "In 2009, F1 is introducing new rules"

          ...

          Anyway I still don't really see how this means DSG is a thing of the past, but maybe I am just obtuse.
          Last edited by Kor; 06-18-2007, 03:55 PM.
          KR
          Porsche 991 Carrera S

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          • #6
            Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

            Originally posted by Kor View Post
            "In 2009, F1 is introducing new rules"

            ...

            Anyway I still don't really see how this means DSG is a thing of the past, but maybe I am just obtuse.
            Ok fine, but the WHOLE sentence says.

            "In 2009, F1 is introducing new rules that will lower the environmental impact of the sport."

            Didn't take that to mean that one of the longstanding rules would be changed but I suppose it could.
            Jay

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            • #7
              Re: DSG...a thing of the past?

              Originally posted by Kor View Post
              Anyway I still don't really see how this means DSG is a thing of the past, but maybe I am just obtuse.
              Maybe I should have worded the post differently...I didn't think anyone would get worked up over it though. Nonetheless, it's cool technology and something we'll probably see very shortly in mass produciton vehicles
              Kyle
              2000 Audi S4

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