motorbike?

[Tuna]

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If your totally inexperienced on a motorcycle there are good biking school programs you can take in the city. My insurance company made me take one to insure my bike years back and it definately will teach you alot of riding knowledge for the streets that you must have to survive around all the retarded drivers in this city.

If I was getting a bike I would take a course without question, great idea.

[Kordain]

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wow didnt realise you could get a bike without taking a basic riding course out here, thats dangerous It is compulsory back home before you can get a license and since it was brought in it reduced bike deaths a lot.

Deffo get a basic handling/ road craft lesson and if you can afford a defensive driving class will probably also reduce your insurance premiums (payback for the course cost) and make you more aware of idiots on the road.

[Kordain]

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old school!

showing my age?

[Coker Rat]

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the bike, I bet that thing was badass in its day though

[Kordain]

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lol, i meant the bike, it wasnt that old when i got it

[RONDAL]

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its not if you crash its when...learning how is key.

the CBR's are great bikes and super cheap to maintain. i had an R6 for a little over a month before i wised up and sold it because i was getting cocky. i liked the feel of the R6's riding position more than the CBR's, so it was more of a comfort thing but both power band wise were much of the same.

Getting a 1000cc to learn on is suicide. you might as well buy a mop, bucket and coffin at the same time, because thats how they are going to clean you up and thats where they will put you. it can't end well, and more times than not it doesn't. sure there are the exceptions....but bill gates dropped out of highschool and became a billionaire...somehow i dont see that happening all that often either.

[gruja]

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I you are choosing between 600cc, both of those bikes are nice and pretty much the same. But if you have chance to get bigger bike, get it. Some people are funny...."Suicide"..lol. Then I guess, if somebody who never drove car before, getting a vr6 would be "suicide" 2. I guess you would have to get 1.8 first, then work through 2l and then get vr6? If you are going fast and yuo hit something, does not matter if you have 1.8 or 2.0 or vr6...same thing with bikes. But the big thing is the money you will save buying vr6 right away, comparing to buying 1.8 first then sell it and buy 2 l and sell it... An so on...Even if you drive scooter, 50cc, and you are going "fast" and drive stupid and have an accident, you will probably die! Then I guess the best thing would it be: get the scooter first, then maybe next year get 600cc and then if yuo dont get too old, wasting all your time on some "bikes", get the real one?

[BoraMK4]

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I am with RONDAL on this....I said the same thing on the previous page. If you've never ridden a bike before, a 1000cc is just too powerful a machine, not saying that the 600cc isn't. With more power available you're more than likely to put that to use at some point and might end up hurting yourself. Sure you can hurt yourself with 600cc's but like uncle parker said: "with more power comes more responsibility". I'd even start off with a more cruiser type of a crotch rocket like a Suzuki SV650.

[RONDAL]

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I you are choosing between 600cc, both of those bikes are nice and pretty much the same. But if you have chance to get bigger bike, get it. Some people are funny...."Suicide"..lol. Then I guess, if somebody who never drove car before, getting a vr6 would be "suicide" 2. I guess you would have to get 1.8 first, then work through 2l and then get vr6? If you are going fast and yuo hit something, does not matter if you have 1.8 or 2.0 or vr6...same thing with bikes. But the big thing is the money you will save buying vr6 right away, comparing to buying 1.8 first then sell it and buy 2 l and sell it... An so on...Even if you drive scooter, 50cc, and you are going "fast" and drive stupid and have an accident, you will probably die! Then I guess the best thing would it be: get the scooter first, then maybe next year get 600cc and then if yuo dont get too old, wasting all your time on some "bikes", get the real one?

have you ridden and owned a bike?

Unlike a VR6 or any car for that matter the room for error on a bike is a fraction of what it is in a car. Unlike a car it also only takes a quick snap of your wrist to be doing high triple digit speeds in less than 10 seconds. In a bike you not only have to worry about you, you have to worry about every other idiot on the road who doesn't see you. This is why taking a bike course is so good. They teach you how to do these things. You take it for granted when you are in a car, but when you are on a bike you have to assume everyone on the road is out to hit you, because most of the time due to their own stupidity they dont see you and do stupid things. 600cc is more than enough power to learn on. its usually more than enough power for most to have for their entire riding careers. To learn on they are perfect, they have enough growing room you dont get bored of it after a few months, they are large enough you dont feel like a giant, and its got great pep even when you have a few years under your belt. A 1000cc is a BIG bike. Just getting on one commands respect. They are much heavier, much larger, and harder to manuever at slow speeds.
Everyone that has owned and ridden a bike knows it not a matter of if you crash, its when. The number of people that drop bikes starting out because someone does something stupid and they have to adjust or stop quickly and cant get steady is very high. Why would you want to be dropping a 1000cc due to inexperiance.

To throw my 2 cents into this purchase talk I wouldnt even look to buy new if its your first bike. You're gonna drop it more than likely, or do something to scratch it up. I rode mountain bikes competivily for 6 years and dirt bikes for 2 before getting a sportbike and I still had the odd time where someone pulled in front of me I had to jam the brakes on and get the feet down quickly and the thing almost fell. Its just how it goes. Going used saves you money and the pain of watching yourself scratch a perfect canvas. Ride it for a year or 2 and then buy something new and bigger if you so wish. Most people keep their bikes in pretty damn good shape and the difference between model years is usually only paint and the minor details.

[gruja]

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have you ridden and owned a bike?

As a matter of fact I did owned bikes. Back in Europe a Peugeot scooter for a couple of years, then gsr 600cc for couple od months here in Canada and for the last 3 years r1. Thanks for asking

[gruja]

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Unlike a VR6 or any car for that matter the room for error on a bike is a fraction of what it is in a car. Unlike a car it also only takes a quick snap of your wrist to be doing high triple digit speeds in less than 10 seconds. In a bike you not only have to worry about you, you have to worry about every other idiot on the road who doesn't see you. This is why taking a bike course is so good. They teach you how to do these things. You take it for granted when you are in a car, but when you are on a bike you have to assume everyone on the road is out to hit you, because most of the time due to their own stupidity they dont see you and do stupid things. 600cc is more than enough power to learn on. its usually more than enough power for most to have for their entire riding careers. To learn on they are perfect, they have enough growing room you dont get bored of it after a few months, they are large enough you dont feel like a giant, and its got great pep even when you have a few years under your belt. A 1000cc is a BIG bike. Just getting on one commands respect. They are much heavier, much larger, and harder to manuever at slow speeds.
Everyone that has owned and ridden a bike knows it not a matter of if you crash, its when. The number of people that drop bikes starting out because someone does something stupid and they have to adjust or stop quickly and cant get steady is very high. Why would you want to be dropping a 1000cc due to inexperiance. To throw my 2 cents into this purchase talk I wouldnt even look to buy new if its your first bike. You're gonna drop it more than likely, or do something to scratch it up. I rode mountain bikes competivily for 6 years and dirt bikes for 2 before getting a sportbike and I still had the odd time where someone pulled in front of me I had to jam the brakes on and get the feet down quickly and the thing almost fell. Its just how it goes. Going used saves you money and the pain of watching yourself scratch a perfect canvas. Ride it for a year or 2 and then buy something new and bigger if you so wish. Most people keep their bikes in pretty damn good shape and the difference between model years is usually only paint and the minor details.

That is exactly what I said earlier: get the scooter 50cc first......if you don't get old enough, get the real one?

[RONDAL]

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As a matter of fact I did owned bikes. Back in Europe a Peugeot scooter for a couple of years, then gsr 600cc for couple od months here in Canada and for the last 3 years r1. Thanks for asking

so if you went 600cc then 1000cc how exactly are we arguing here? you can't honestly say your time on the smaller CC's didn't do a ton in terms of learning how to ride without being able to get into too much trouble.

[gruja]

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well the 600cc I got because of totally different reasons.I definitely agree with you that r1 is much heavier, faster,etc. that is why I even got the bike, but I have and I know tons of guys that bought r1 as their first bike and they learned on them how to ride, later on like pros. I would actually encourage people to start will bigger bikes, so they would just earn more respect to speed. The accidents and the falls are process of learning, and there is no defferent wheater you fall down from 600cc or 1000cc(998cc)..I dunno the exact prices here, but the 600cc is around $4k and R1 is $6k. So that's why I said if you have an option get R1

[Satnam]

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??? stop it! you're confusing me

now I've got to go out and try and buy a new 1000cc bike for $6000 not >$13000

[Khyron]

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My 98 ZX6r (600CC) is plenty fast for me. I don't think I've ever said "Damn this thing is slow. "