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  • #46
    Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

    Originally posted by 20V_MK2 View Post
    We are expecting at the minimum to make 250hp and rev to at least 10000rpm. And all the work on the cylinder head was done by my dad except we sent it to a machine shop to get it decked.

    Thanks for following.
    That's awesome - beautiful work!
    Work - houzz / linkedin
    Play - haldex swap

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    • #47
      Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

      I love this build! I always wondered how awesome an N/A 20v would be. Can't wait to hear this thing.
      Justin
      MkVI CW GTI 4-Door 6MT | APR Stage 2 | APR RSC Exhaust | VWR Intake |H&R Street Performance

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      • #48
        Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

        Originally posted by idlandk View Post
        I don't really see the relevance of that question. I've never personally seen an na 20v but I think there's a reason for that. Why have an unusable 200hp when you could have a usable 250hp with a small turbo for a TON cheaper. Don't get me wrong, this is awesome and I can really appreciate the work going into it but if I was spending that kind of money id keep a turbo. I'm not trying to start an argument it was just a question to the guy out of curiosity.
        I'm not trying to start anything either and don't get me wrong, I am all for the big turbo and to me yes it seems a little silly but that is exactly why I am so excited for it. The sound, the drive, the experience.

        It's great to see something different.
        Calgary Autoworks

        2004.5 Jetta GLI
        2005 Audi Allroad

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        • #49
          Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

          Whoa, didn't realize when I first saw it in person, that this was going to be NA. Gnarly.
          Cam


          2004 VW R32 Turbo

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          • #50
            Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

            First off we are not really too hung up on the horse power for this car. This build is all about doing something different and unique. But let's take a look at what we expect for performance. The car will weigh about 2000 pounds, the gearing will be very tight and if we do make between 250 and 300hp it will have a similar power to weight ratio as a 400hp mk4. The difference will be our power will be very linear and if driven properly will have no trouble keeping up to said mk4. I've driven a big turbo mk2 that puts down a verified 300whp and it's a real blast to drive but there is a lot of unnecessary wheel spin and is really not as fast as it could be because the torque curve is so steep. I've been exposed to a lot of high horse power hatchbacks and though they are fun unless they are all wheel drive they are kind of silly. You know the kind of silly that makes you laugh uncontrollably, but that's just not what I'm looking for. I think this car is really unique and will be lots of fun to take to shows, meets and cruises. I know that not everybody is going to agree with what we are building, but I wouldn't expect them to.

            Thanks for all the comments and encouragement I'm having lots if fun with this project and it doesn't bother me one bit that some people don't get it.
            - 2003 Big Turbo 20th AE GTI
            - 1992 NA 20V GTI

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            • #51
              Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

              Simply amazing. Wow.

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              • #52
                Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                Originally posted by 20V_MK2 View Post
                I've driven a big turbo mk2 that puts down a verified 300whp and it's a real blast to drive but there is a lot of unnecessary wheel spin and is really not as fast as it could be because the torque curve is so steep.
                Very true.
                Mitch

                1996 Harlequin
                2001 Toyota Highlander

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                • #53
                  Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                  Fair enough, my brothers mk2 was pretty stupid before awd. Very nice work, keep it up!
                  2002 Jetta TDI
                  2003 Jazz Blue GTI
                  1981 Rabbit Truck Diesel

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                  • #54
                    Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                    I have always been of the mindset that 300-400hp and above in anything FWD may be fun, but not really useable. I think 250-300hp in a sub-2200lb car will be stupid fast, and the fact is that NA motors with a wide power band and high rev limit have a different driving experience. There are some people that care more about doing what they want and are interested in, then about making cheap power.
                    Last edited by danosaur; 02-20-2015, 11:00 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                      Everything about this build is epic. Light car, high revving NA 1.8!!! This will be a blast to drive. And the sound will be mind blowing. I am sure once it is done it will see 300hp and 11k based on the work that is being done. This will be one of, if not, the best sounding cars in Calgary outside of anybody doing Hyabusa swaps.

                      I took the liberty of preparing this little video of what 1.8 litres producing 250hp at 10,000 rpm on a dyno sounds like. Just epic Adam & Pops, Epic!



                      Disclaimer this is not Adams engine just and illustration.
                      Last edited by bobkatkat; 02-21-2015, 12:20 PM. Reason: Disclaimer

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                      • #56
                        Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                        Originally posted by bobkatkat View Post
                        Everything about this build is epic. Light car, high revving NA 1.8!!! This will be a blast to drive. And the sound will be mind blowing. I am sure once it is done it will see 300hp and 11k based on the work that is being done. This will be one of, if not, the best sounding cars in Calgary outside of anybody doing Hyabusa swaps.
                        The sound will be awesome. And we will likely meet 300hp if we get an Integrated Engineering CNC ported head and run the car on E85. But we are going to see how much it makes before that.

                        On another note, Corrado seats are awesome in a mk2.

                        - 2003 Big Turbo 20th AE GTI
                        - 1992 NA 20V GTI

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                        • #57
                          Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                          Absolutely stunning. I remember seeing the car last winter, it really looks like a different car altogether. This goes to show the quality of work done at the shop. Love the car Adam and can't wait to see it finished!

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                          • #58
                            Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                            This thing is gonna be incredible! Very excited to see the NA 20v in action
                            -Faraaz

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                            • #59
                              Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                              Hey guys, just wanted to get my latest progress in for wheel wednesday.

                              Quick pic from Instagram


                              If you want to check out my instagram its adammerrill_

                              Oh and I'll probably have all of them sealed up tomorrow, then tires on and on the car by friday.
                              Last edited by 20V_MK2; 04-01-2015, 09:43 PM.
                              - 2003 Big Turbo 20th AE GTI
                              - 1992 NA 20V GTI

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                              • #60
                                Re: My MK2 Build (NA 20V)

                                This car just makes me drool!!!
                                Blair
                                Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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