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    Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

    The past couple days, my car has been having troubles starting.

    I hop in the car, turn the key to the on position, and the dash/lights/radio everything lights up fine(which makes me think the battery is ok) .... but when i try to turn the key to start the car nothing happens. The starter does not engage, no clicks no nothing.

    It takes anywhere from 5 to 20 attempts of turning the key for the starter to engage and start the engine. When the starter does engage, it seems to start up with no issues. The car then starts up fine for the rest of the day. Im not really sure what is going on.

    It makes me think that the car doesn't notice that the clutch pedal is pressed in? Or maybe ignition cylinder switch or something ? Has anyone heard of this issue before?

    I had a cel pop up yesterday which i will have to check.
    Last edited by Danaldson; 01-20-2016, 10:11 AM.
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  • #2
    Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

    I am not familiar with B7's but could it possibly be a bad starter relay?
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    • #3
      Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

      Originally posted by VW337 View Post
      I am not familiar with B7's but could it possibly be a bad starter relay?
      Im not sure where it would be located. But I'm wondering if it froze from when i had a late car wash on the weekend while it was cold.

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      • #4
        Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

        You can monitor your clutch switch with VCDS. Give it a try in the morning and see if its activating

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        • #5
          Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

          Originally posted by onceover View Post
          You can monitor your clutch switch with VCDS. Give it a try in the morning and see if its activating
          oh okay, great. Thanks.

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          • #6
            Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

            Ignition switch is where I'd put my money.
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            • #7
              Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

              Take out the pedal switch put the two leads together and try that for a few days. If you notice the same thing I would say ignition switch. If it fixes it then you safety switch is gone.

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                Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                ok thanks guys, ill do some investigating tonight after work. Does anyone know if the ignition relay is located in/near the ecu box?
                Last edited by Danaldson; 01-20-2016, 01:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                  Originally posted by Danaldson View Post
                  ok thanks guys, ill do some investigating tonight after work. Does anyone know if the ignition relay is located in/near the ecu box?
                  Should be under the dash, number 381.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                    Originally posted by BaggedGLI View Post
                    Should be under the dash, number 381.
                    ok ill take a look. thanks.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                      Do the Audis have a load reduction relay? if so is the relay dropping the power out as it is supposed to? If not I would think ignition switch.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                        Originally posted by toplessvw View Post
                        Do the Audis have a load reduction relay? if so is the relay dropping the power out as it is supposed to? If not I would think ignition switch.
                        I couldnt tell you :/



                        It's so odd. Just went out for lunch and the car started up first try no problem. And its just about as cold as it was this morning.


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                        • #13
                          Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                          Starter solenoid could be on its way out too

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                            Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                            Does it happen every start or only after the car has been sitting for a while?
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                            • #15
                              Re: Starter not Engaging in the mornings Cold Ish temps.

                              Originally posted by RSS View Post
                              Does it happen every start or only after the car has been sitting for a while?
                              its only been happening when i try to start the car in the morning. Starts up normally every other time in the day.

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