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    In the seemingly never ending saga to sort out my non-functioning ABS i finally decided once again to spend a little quality time with the s4 last night.

    Originally when the ABS failed it was shortly after engine pull and axle replacement. ABS work intermittently then died altogether where it stayed.
    I did some poking around, knowing ABS modules fail constantly and are a) expensive to replace but b) you can send them to a few places to get fixed.
    Having the bastard child 2001.5 s4 it was annoying as my ABS module was different than anyone elses and i could never get a good response on whether it was replaceable.

    Fast forward to last night:

    did some digging, i do in fact have the bosch 5.0 module which is very different than most of you will have. its partly due to the fact i have ESP, so the pump is in the engine bay and module is under the rear seat. Part # 8e0614111A.

    I then started doing some reading and people say these almost never fail due to being relocated, so the usual response of "its you ABS module thats failed" may not be the right diagnosis.

    So i looked at what else would cause the error code.

    One of hte things that comes up is wheel speed sensor. And now i dont know how to determine a) which wheel, and b) why it would have failed

    Could this be mechanical? If so how does one check?
    Could this be electrical? If so how does one check?

    When i run VAG-Com on the car for codes it can't even get past the ABS control check.....so does this change the thinking that its speed sensor related?

    Sad part is my module isn't fixable for cheap, and requires a fully new one from Audi for a nice chunk of change, so i'd like to rule out the low hanging fruit before i simply order one.
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  • #2
    Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

    If it says it can't communicate with your controller I think your module is toast, check all connections.
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    • #3
      Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

      aside from the big harness going into the pump, where would any other connections be?
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      • #4
        Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

        Could it be just the module under the seat? you could just swap it out for a known working unit and see if it resolves the problem, not sure if you tried this

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        • #5
          Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

          if someone else here has one sure, problem is most are different modules as the Cdn cars didn't come with ESP
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          • #6
            Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

            Not true, my 2001.5 has ESP
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            • #7
              Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

              not sure what your scheduled looks like but im heading out of town for the weekend on Friday so my car wont be in use for the weekend if you want you can either swing by and do the swap quick tonight or tomorrow or come pick it up before Friday and have it for the weekend as long as i have it back for Monday... just dont fry it haha

              let me know.

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              • #8
                Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                can you check you have the same ABS module part #
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                • #9
                  Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                  Us car, same year so I assume it will be but. l. Can check after work

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                    My old S4 was also a 2001.5 with ESP
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                    • #11
                      Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                      thanks gheron, if you could that would be great.
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                      • #12
                        Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                        Andrew, pump part number is 8e0 614 111 T which from my understanding is interchangeable with the A....

                        module under my rear seat 8d0907389E (computer) and 4B0907637A(sensor)


                        EDIT:.............. i just checked cost on all those units and holly SH*T.......
                        Last edited by gheron; 04-03-2013, 06:46 PM. Reason: COST

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                        • #13
                          Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                          exactly.
                          how easy was it to access the one under seat? I believe that's the actual module itself is it not?

                          maybe we need to spend an afternoon swapping parts and seeing what works
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                          • #14
                            Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                            Just have to remove the bottom part.. pull up from the front there are 2 clips holding it in that will just pop loose takes 30 seconds
                            Last edited by gheron; 04-04-2013, 10:58 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: How to Check Wheel Speed Sensor b5s4

                              This sounds like something my A6 just went through.

                              On start up the car beeps three times. Upon disengaging the hand brake, the hand brake symbol flashes without a sign of ever stopping. My ESP and ABS lights were constantly on. If this sounds like yours, keep reading.

                              I changed my ABS module under the hood, including the pump unit with a used one I got from Bryan L from the states. Cheap replacement. But somehow my clock spring was tied into all of this. Don't ask me how or why, I have no idea. When I fiddled around with it, I ended up snapping the Fu$#%r. So I replaced that as well.

                              I tried to get everything up and running through Vag-Com as it states everywhere on the net...start car, roll 20m ahead, make sure wheel is straight, stop, code, voila, you're done. NOT IN MY CASE. I couldn't even get the module to communicate with the damn computer. And when I did, it would keep hanging up.

                              Took it to a local shop later, $140, and good as new. They got it all squared away with the voodoo sorcery that they do. And I didn't have to touch the module under the rear seat.

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