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    Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

    So I finally got a new job (Yay!) but it's way down in Leduc, so i'm gonna get a little commuter car which will pay for itself over driving my allroad every day.

    Does anyone know anything about either of these cars? They seem to be about the most promising tdi's out there right now in Calgary. Problem is i'm in Edmonton.

    2004 w/ 211k and leather for $5700 in Calgary
    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true

    2003 w/ 185k and leather for $5000 in Calgary
    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true

    vs.

    a 2004 in Edmonton with 271k, no leather, but winters and summers for $4100.

    Anyone have anything else for sale? Looking to buy in the next week for sure.
    Chris
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    Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

    I have my 2005 Mk4 TDI for sale here.

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      Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

      99.5-2003 have the ALH TDI engine. Known to be the most bullet proof tdi engine and provide some of the best fuel mileage. The auto transmissions were an issue for those years though so if you need an auto I would suggest either making sure it's been rebuilt or buy a later year. If your driving stick then your fine. 2004-2006 was decent, just poor engineering as far as the cam shaft goes. Basically the same car though. Either way, buy an EGR delete kit and buy a zero start coolant heater. Well worth the investment. You will never have to clean your intake again and the coolant heater will never leave you stranded assuming you plug it in.
      2001 Jetta TDI GL Silver
      Malone Tune stage 5+ ,VNT17-22Turbo, OMI, PP Race Pipe, PD 150 Intake, 2 1/2" Straight back exhaust, no mufflers, 2 1/2" downpipe straight no Cat, Race 520 Injectors, 11mm Fuel Pump, Lift Pump, EGR Delete mod,DC Stage IV Clutch, Michelin X-Ice 2's, 26 lb/s of boost alll day long, Smoking like a train!

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      • #4
        Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

        Sorry witchcraftz, nice looking car but I don't want an auto.

        And 'm pretty well versed on ALH's and PD's (I'm swapping an '06 BRM into my westy right now), but it's incredibly low mileage and we're putting in a performance camshaft, so I've never looked too hard into the whole camshaft problem. That being said, I'm trying to find how long the BEW's can last with not much luck so far. Anyone care to chime in on here? Are they going to be as good as ALH's? And does anyone know how common the camshaft problem really is?
        Last edited by N'Syncro; 08-10-2015, 09:34 PM.
        Chris

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        • #5
          Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

          I have a BEW with qutie a few mods, I'm at 270k kms with ZERO camshaft issues...proper oil changes every 16k kms...mostly highway kms. When looking for a used BEW, maintenance and oil change records are a must....wrong oil shortens the camshaft life substantially.
          Last edited by Geobmx4life; 08-11-2015, 09:33 AM.
          Hers 2009 Audi A4 6sp manual
          Mine....2005 Golf TDI, VNT 17, Malone tuned stage 4, Spec stage 2 clutch, FMIC, Ventectomy, NewSouth gauges, BuzzKen 2.5 turbo back exhaust, Evolution Skidplate, Helix OEM Reps retrofitted with Morimoto Bixenon mini's, ST coils, colour matched Huffs. Frostheater

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          • #6
            Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

            Originally posted by N'Syncro View Post
            Sorry witchcraftz, nice looking car but I don't want an auto.

            And 'm pretty well versed on ALH's and PD's (I'm swapping an '06 BRM into my westy right now), but it's incredibly low mileage and we're putting in a performance camshaft, so I've never looked too hard into the whole camshaft problem. That being said, I'm trying to find how long the BEW's can last with not much luck so far. Anyone care to chime in on here? Are they going to be as good as ALH's? And does anyone know how common the camshaft problem really is?
            The BEW will last just as long as the ALH, as long as you use the correct 505.01 oil from VW. The camshaft problem stems from a higher amount of pressure. The VW oil was engineered to alleviate the problem. not all BEW engines have the camshaft wear problem.

            Some reading material:
            http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/ca...tdi-pd-engine/


            As for it being Auto, the transmission is holding up great with no problems despite a tune. Would be a good candidate for a manual swap.

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            • #7
              Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

              My BEW didn't need a camshaft until 305k, and that's how I bought it, requiring the repair. It's auto, and it still shifts fine.
              Justin

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              • #8
                Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                I would never do a 16k interval. The oil also doesn't need to be Vw approved, just use good oil. I would use Rotella T6 5w-40 and you'll never have a problem. BEW is a good engine, you'll likely never have to change the cam as long as oil changes have been done with good oil and filter. BRM has a lot more issues with cams, egr coolers, and cracked blocks. I would never recommend an 06 tdi to anyone.
                2002 Jetta TDI
                2003 Jazz Blue GTI
                1981 Rabbit Truck Diesel

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                  Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                  Originally posted by idlandk View Post
                  I would never do a 16k interval.
                  Curious why? If you use good oil and good filters, you should be good to go with spec. change intervals. (unless your driving conditions are not "typical", which I know is the case with some modded cars on here)

                  Is it just a level of comfort thing, or have you seen negative results from following VW spec? I know several guys that still do the 5-8000km changes on their TDI's because that's just what they are used to from their previous vehicles, it seems like a waste of good oil. At the end of the day, the only reason they were doing 5-8k changes old cars was because a manual said so in the first place. New manual says 16, and that seems to freak a lot of guys out.

                  "Minor Maintenance" interval for all new Porsches is 32,000km or 2 years (ref).
                  Stefan
                  -> '19 Deep Black Pearl Alltrack
                  -> '05 Urban Grey Passat Wagon TDI.
                  -> Past rides: '14 Allroad, 06 Mazda5, '98 Jetta K2, '01 Jetta TDI, '91 Mazda B2200, '81 Toyota Cressida
                  -> FutuRe Ride...??!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                    Originally posted by stefan View Post
                    Curious why? If you use good oil and good filters, you should be good to go with spec. change intervals. (unless your driving conditions are not "typical", which I know is the case with some modded cars on here)

                    Is it just a level of comfort thing, or have you seen negative results from following VW spec? I know several guys that still do the 5-8000km changes on their TDI's because that's just what they are used to from their previous vehicles, it seems like a waste of good oil. At the end of the day, the only reason they were doing 5-8k changes old cars was because a manual said so in the first place. New manual says 16, and that seems to freak a lot of guys out.

                    "Minor Maintenance" interval for all new Porsches is 32,000km or 2 years (ref).
                    Exactly Stefan, and I'm %90 highway kms as well...my cam is in great condition!
                    Last edited by Geobmx4life; 08-12-2015, 11:40 AM.
                    Hers 2009 Audi A4 6sp manual
                    Mine....2005 Golf TDI, VNT 17, Malone tuned stage 4, Spec stage 2 clutch, FMIC, Ventectomy, NewSouth gauges, BuzzKen 2.5 turbo back exhaust, Evolution Skidplate, Helix OEM Reps retrofitted with Morimoto Bixenon mini's, ST coils, colour matched Huffs. Frostheater

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                    • #11
                      Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                      There is this 2003 as well posted on Kiiji. Price point is a bit higher at $6900 but only has 141k miles. 5 speed to boot. Supposedly the 2003 with ALH and 5 speed offers the best mileage from my reading but I am no TDI expert!

                      http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true
                      Last edited by dave335; 08-12-2015, 11:55 AM. Reason: spelling error

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                      • #12
                        Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                        On a modified diesel especially, I wouldn't do 16k. Lots of extra contaminants are getting in the oil. Another reason is the amount of dirt on the roads in Alberta. Dirty oil = less lubrication. I'll personally will keep doing 5-8k oil changes (depending on driving conditions) in my diesel. Personal preference I suppose.
                        2002 Jetta TDI
                        2003 Jazz Blue GTI
                        1981 Rabbit Truck Diesel

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                        • #13
                          Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                          You guys are talking Miles not Km. All TDIs have a 10,000 mile oil change interval after break-in.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                            Originally posted by dave335 View Post
                            There is this 2003 as well posted on Kiiji. Price point is a bit higher at $6900 but only has 141k miles. 5 speed to boot. Supposedly the 2003 with ALH and 5 speed offers the best mileage from my reading but I am no TDI expert!

                            http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true
                            ALH ENGINES are the best diesel engine of the last 4 gens IMO, and if the mod bug does get you, pretty cheap and easy to get more TQ/HP...with moddfing, fuel economy goes up substantially as well.
                            Hers 2009 Audi A4 6sp manual
                            Mine....2005 Golf TDI, VNT 17, Malone tuned stage 4, Spec stage 2 clutch, FMIC, Ventectomy, NewSouth gauges, BuzzKen 2.5 turbo back exhaust, Evolution Skidplate, Helix OEM Reps retrofitted with Morimoto Bixenon mini's, ST coils, colour matched Huffs. Frostheater

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                            • #15
                              Re: Looking for an mk4/5 TDI Jetta

                              Originally posted by witchcraftz View Post
                              You guys are talking Miles not Km. All TDIs have a 10,000 mile oil change interval after break-in.
                              Oddly, the current TDI doesn't have a break-in change interval anymore. Used to be that the first two were 8000km and 16,000km after that. Now, the first one is 16,000km. (At least in my Mom's 2015 Passat TDI).

                              For Geobmx4life's comment, my ALH was pretty bombproof and easy to maintain. I loved it. It did die prematurely, but I sort of suspected from day one that it was not looked after by the original owner (it was a CPO car).
                              Stefan
                              -> '19 Deep Black Pearl Alltrack
                              -> '05 Urban Grey Passat Wagon TDI.
                              -> Past rides: '14 Allroad, 06 Mazda5, '98 Jetta K2, '01 Jetta TDI, '91 Mazda B2200, '81 Toyota Cressida
                              -> FutuRe Ride...??!

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